3 way multi wiring help

Hi I’m currently trying to wire up a 3 way multi with 1 white series inovelli, and 1 dummy switch. When I pulled out the switch I’d like to replace with the inovelli I had two red wires (I’m assuming a load and traveler), a black ( the line) and a ground. I wired up the inovelli. I may have switched up the traveler and load. I provided pictures of the wiring before removing, just in case I had to go back. The bottom red is what I assumed was the traveler and the top wire was the load.

Once I turned the power back on the lights turn on with the smart switch only when the dummy switch is set to on as well otherwise it doesn’t work. And once I turn it off with the dummy switch the dummy switch no longer works.


Are you trying to say that the Inovelli only powers up with the dumb switch in one position? And when you flip the dumb switch to the other position (it doesn’t matter which way . . there is no on/off on a 3-way dumb switch), the Inovelli loses power?

No the inovelli is always on in the sense the led light on the switch is on.

it just doesn’t turn on the light if the dummy switch is in the off position. And if the dummy switch is on the on position the inovelli works fine but once I turn the dummy switch off the light turns off as it should but it won’t turn back on again even if I flip the dummy switch to the on position. The only way to get the light to work is to turn the dummy switch on first and than put the inovelli in the on state.

Hmm, did you configure the switch to work with a 3-way dumb?

I haven’t hooked it up to home assistant/hubitat yet I did the manual configuration holding down the b paddle and hitting config x5 I got the violet confirmation.

Do I need to switch the switches? Maybe put the inovelli where the dumb switch is and the dumb switch where the inovelli is?

I can’t say for sure about swapping the switches without seeing more of your wiring.

The one thing that hit me with the pictures of the one switch that you posted is that there are two reds and a black attached to the switch. While that may not be incorrect, I would normally expect to see two blacks and a red attached to each 3-way switch.

But to do this properly, you have to fully understand the topology of your wiring. Making assumptions and just moving stuff around to see what works never works well with electricity.

I would start by removing both conductors from the black screws on the two switches. With them removed from the switches, one of them will be hot continuously and the other one will not have any power. So test for the presence of electricity on each of those two conductors. That will be your incoming line and the Inovelli will go there.

I’ll be glad to look at pictures of your wiring if you take pictures that show all of the connections to the switches and into the boxes so that wiring can be traced. However, I will be away from a computer for a couple days and it’s too tough to do that analysis on a phone. Someone else should be able to help you in the interim.

In the meantime, test those conductors.

If you’re not comfortable with testing and diagnosing a wiring topology, it’s probably best to consult with a licensed electrician.