Zigbee 2-1 Switch (On/Off & Dimmer) | Project New Horizon (Blue Series)

Mouser has SiLabs MG24 in stock, is this something different than what you need?
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Silicon-Labs/EFR32MG24A021F1024IM40-B?qs=MyNHzdoqoQKCRo%2bGoYUkkA%3D%3D
About 10 different RAM/flash configurations.

The Matter lighting demo for Silicon Labs is here:

I don’t see any of the MG24 dev boards for sale yet: BRD4186A, BRD4187A
But this demo runs on the MG12 and MG21 too.

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Light Switch Matter demo is here:

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@Darwyn_Inovelli - has your team seen this?

With all the options, calling the Red Series a “switch” is a misnomer, it’s much more of a control center. I can setup rules to have the taps(s) of the switch do almost anything, from disarm the security sirens(secret unknown # taps), open/close the garage door, dim the porch lights on the other side of the house. I can also know if the basement fan is on or off by the color of the LED bar or if I left a door/window open.
Inovelli is really shaking up the market.

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Just wanted to understand this better, does this mean the shipments of the Blue switches in July will not have the MG24 and won’t be able to receive OTA updates to Zigbee to Matter? Will they be upgradeable to Matter using some other method?

I think “near instant” is the accurate way to describe what we’re seeing in the videos once the 500ms delay is removed. Its also probably the fastest any of us will ever get for a smart bulb switch. Instant would be how fast a dumb switch turns on a dumb bulb. I believe I can see a delay, albeit very small, between the Blue switch turning on the smart bulb vs a dumb switch turning on a dumb bulb.

“Near instant” is not a critique of the Blue Switch performance, I am very happy with what has been demonstrated and intend to buy a 10 pack.

Yeah great question – it’s buried in this thread a bit, but here’s the gist of it:

  • MG21 (current design and what is initially shipping) will have OTA capabilities, but only Zigbee to Zigbee firmware (ie: Zigbee FW Version 1.0 can OTA to Zigbee FW Version 2.0). If you want to go from Zigbee to Matter (or Thread), you will have to use a serial port method (more on that below).
  • MG24 (what we’re hoping to get in our next batch or at least sometime this year when the chip is ready) will be able to do Zigbee to Zigbee or Zigbee to Matter. No serial port required.

We’re still working through the logistics of the serial port method for customers, but how it’s done is that there is a cable that has a USB-A on one end (to plug into your computer) and a 5-pin header that plugs into the switch and you would update the firmware that way:

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NOTE: The above is a prototype but the pin location is the same in production.

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I would like to have the same control I had from Insteon. Not sure if it is possible yet or if maybe I just need to look deeper into advanced settings or programs. I miss turning on lights after a set time and they turn on to the preset level of 15-20% when switch is pressed normally but then during daytime hours the same push on the switch turns them on to 75%. The other thing I’m looking forward to is more reliability in regards to quick feedback on if a device is on or off from apps. Insteon was very reliable but maybe it was my setup and it wouldn’t always update quickly to show if something was off or on. I also since I had little z-wave had a hard time getting locks to show accurate and quickly.

I really look forward to having the light bar show status of other devices. I did also purchase 4 RGBW bulbs from here and am trying to figure out where to put them currently. I like the ability to have Alexa turn them on and change the color but I don’t want to always have to ask Alexa to do this which another reason I’m excited for the blue series I purchased. Recessed light bulbs I’d be all over and would have bought more but standard I don’t have many areas in use.

If I want to use one of these in the garage to control high wattage “shop” LED lights, are there limits I should be aware of? I want to get the highest lumens I possible. TIA.

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

Good news… you can absolutely do this with the Blue Series (and even with the Red Series).

There’s a parameter in the switch that is called, “Default Level” (or something like that) in which you can set the default level that the switch comes on. From there, you can schedule a timeframe for that default level. For example, I have a Red Series in my bathroom that between the hours of 2-6am, if I turn on the light, it will come on to only 5% as to not blind myself if I have late night bladder issues lol. Then during other times, it will just go to 100%.

Looking forward to hearing how you like them once you get everything setup!

Great question – I haven’t released official specs yet as the product is going through UL, but what we submitted was the following, which we feel confident we’ll achieve.

Single-Gang: 600W Incandescent, 300W LED/CFL
Double-Gang: 500W Incandescent, 300W LED/CFL
Triple-Gang: 400W Incandescent, 300W LED/CFL

I was a bit shocked we had to lower the wattage given there’s no heat sink tabs on the switch, but apparently they’re concerned of overall heat in the box if there are two or three switches.

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Keep in mind, schedules are driven by the hub and not on switch itself.

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Is the zigbee binding feature with hue bulbs going to be supported on Hubitat?

I’m like 99% sure this is possible with Hubitat. I’ve been meaning to test it myself to make some tutorial videos, but have been finishing up the Home Assistant ones.

@mamber, @BertABCD1234, @harjms or @EricM_Inovelli - I can’t remember which of you have tested binding g on Hubitat, but if so, there were no issues, right?

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Actually I think it was @adamkempenich who drafted up a Hubitat app to do bindings. Ive used it and it works but its still beta right now

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When you say in the switch you mean something we can control from SmartThings or the hub we use? Is there a link maybe to follow instructions?

You looking for the Red or Blue Series (or both)?

I can try to write something up real quick! It may be challenging with Edge Drivers, but I can do it with groovy if that’s ok?

Blue Series

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Got it, yeah I can whip up some instructions before it releases!

Edit: got bored and took some screenshots of how to do it with the Red Series (we don’t have the child device toggle built into the Blue Series handler yet)

Basically, here’s how you do it (I will write a more professional one later).

Screenshot #1 just shows where to flip the toggle to create a child device for the default level Parameter.

Screenshot #2 shows what the child device looks like.

Screenshot #3 is how you set it up in Smart Lighting.

What this does is it turns on the default level to 5% between the hours of 2-6am.

Tested the following scenario today:

  • 3-Way setup w/2x smart switches and a smart light

Hard to tell from the camera, but the LED bars are in sync with each other and also the light itself.

Really cool!

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Are they wired in a 3 way or binding?

Wired in a 3-Way and then bound together.

This is the schematic for the record:

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