[DEVICE PAGE] Inovelli Dimmer Red Series LZW31-SN

Yep, should be coming out really soon. With support for everything but associations.

One year ago I’d agree I was pushing it, probably so much I wouldn’t even dare to say what I said LOL

I’ve always done what’s known as a “split setup”. So instead of putting everything in one huge yaml file, I organized it into folders and individual files for each integration. So I’d have like thermostats.yaml, sonarr.yaml, google_nest.yaml, etc… etc… Everything got it’s own folder so it was easy to find to adjust if needed.

Overall I had like 70-80 individual yaml files. As of this month, that’s now down to less than 10. And those are more niche items. Everything else is all done in the GUI now. The push to make it a more user-friendly platform has been huge and they really are starting to get to the point where the more entry-level user can get fairly comfortable with it quite quickly.

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I just installed my first Inovelli switch (replacing a GE enbrighten switch), and I have two problems:

  1. the scene control is backwards from every other switch I have in my system (Aeotec, Zooz, Enbrighten), Scene002 is tap up, and Scene001 is tap down. I initially tried inverting the switch, but the local control is reversed in the process - I had to change my scene controls. I think this is a Z-Wave standard, correct me if I’m wrong, please.
  2. I tried smart bulb mode so the switch would only send remote scene controls, but the internal relay no longer responds to any on/off commands. How do I configure the switch so the paddle sends remote scene events, but the internal relay is not controlled by the paddle?
    The scenario is the switch controls an overhead light I only want to come on when I double tap, and I want single taps to turn on a scene for the rest of the room (controlled from home assistant).

That’s what it’s supposed to do. If you are powering smart bulbs via a wired connection, then you do not want the paddle presses to cut the power to the bulbs.

Exactly how you have it by turning on Smart Bulb Mode. This ensures the switch constantly puts out 100% and paddle presses have no effect on the wired load.

Presuming the overhead light is not a smart bulb? If so, put the switch in the smart bulb mode. Code an automation to turn the SWITCH on with a double-tap up (and probably off with a double-tap down. Code an automation to run your scene with a single-tap up.

If you want dimming, instead of using the Smart Bulb Mode, just Disable Local Control. That way paddle presses will have no effect, but you can still set a dim level with your automations.

Scenes are triggered by various taps up and down. The switch doesn’t know what your scenes are. It only knows to send paddle press info to the hub. From there, the hub runs the appropriate scene from the appropriate paddle press.

By “Scene” in this case, I mean the scene class sent by the switch as a value notification on the ZWave protocol. I haven’t put it under a debugger, but either the switch itself is sending a different message set for switch command classes, or the Home Assistant/ZWave-JS mapping from the value notification to a zwave_js_value_notification is reversed from every other switch type. Every other switch I’ve tried sends Scene001 events on tap up, and Scene002 events on tap down. This switch is backwards to all of them, which means I can’t just drop-in replace other switches.

This is what I’m asking - putting the switch into smart bulb mode resulted in the local relay being always on - not responding to any automations. How do I disable local control, but make the relay respond to on/off commands?

8x on the config button. It will flash red when it is disabled and green when you re-enable it with the same 8x press.

There should be a parameter for that but I can’t find it.

Pressing the button 8x does nothing. Is this documented somewhere? Do you mean 8 seconds?

Assuming you have an actual LZW31-SN.

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from OpenZWave/config/inovelli/lzw31-sn.xml at master ¡ InovelliUSA/OpenZWave ¡ GitHub

    <CommandClass id="91">
    <Instance index="1" />
      <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Scene Count" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="2" />
      <Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Top Button Scene" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
      <Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Bottom Button Scene" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
      <Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="3" label="Config Button Scene" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
  </CommandClass>

The indices appear to be the culprit (I think the up button should be index 1, but it is 2)

Thank you. It actually lists itself as VZW31-SN, but I can’t find specific information about that anywhere.

It looks like the parameter is “[106-117-0-local] Local protection state”, but the config button definitely doesn’t affect it.

The 8x config is for an LZW31-SN, which this thread discusses. You have a different switch. The 8x only works on the Gen 2’s.

Found it.

My LZW31-SN energy consumption increases 0.011kwh every 4 hours despite the switch being off for the entire duration. The power measurement always shows 0 Watt during this time. It’s configured and wired using neutral line. It has firmware 1.61. Even with parasitic energy use from the notification led and the microcontroller, it shouldn’t draw that much energy in only 4 hours. The energy consumption shows up very strangely in my household energy itemization, but otherwise the switch works correctly. Is this normal for this device?

I don’t recall if the cumulative data includes the switch’s draw, but if it does, that’s only 2.75W instant. That doesn’t seem out of line for a smart switch power draw.

There is a thread here somewhere in which power stats were discussed, but I couldn’t find it. @EricM_Inovelli may be able to provide further details re the draw stats.

Actually, I think it’s 2.91W. But why is the instantaneous power always 0W when the load is turned off? Was the quiescent load excluded from the power measurement, but not the accumulated energy consumption? Maybe, but then two separate current sensors are needed to measure both loads separately. If so, then count me impressed at the level of sophistication. Or maybe it calculates the standby power in some way and only applies it to the energy consumption measurement, not the instant power. However, that seems needlessly confusing to be intentional.

Not a big deal really, just curious.

I’m not sure on that. There was a discussion here a couple years ago regarding the measurements. I recall @EricM_Inovelli discussing how the three values were determined, but I couldn’t find that thread. So what I was saying, as you noted, is that IF the switch’s draw is included in the cumulative stat, what you’re seeing seems normal.

fyi, I calc’d 0.011*1000 = 11W/4 hours. 11/4 = 2.75W

The MCU (Z-Wave chip) load is not shown in the output when the switch is off. We actually did do that in one of the firmware releases and people were confused why their switch would say 1W consumption even when it is off. So it is working as designed.

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