[HOW-TO] Using the Z-Wave Association Tool in Hubitat

EAN2007 · May 2, 2020, 3:06pm

Do we need to install both this one

InovelliUSA/Hubitat/blob/master/Apps/z-waveat/zwave-association-tool.src/zwave-association-tool.groovy

definition(
    name: "Z-Wave Association Tool",
    namespace: "erocm123",
    author: "Eric Maycock",
    description: "Create direct associations from one Z-Wave device to another",
    category: "My Apps",
    iconUrl: "https://s3.amazonaws.com/smartapp-icons/Convenience/Cat-Convenience.png",
    iconX2Url: "https://s3.amazonaws.com/smartapp-icons/Convenience/[email protected]",
    iconX3Url: "https://s3.amazonaws.com/smartapp-icons/Convenience/[email protected]")

preferences {
    page(name: "mainPage", title: "Associations", install: true, uninstall: true,submitOnChange: true) {
        section {
            app(name: "association", appName: "Z-Wave Association", namespace: "erocm123", title: "Create New Association", multiple: true)
            }
        section {
            paragraph "This tool allows you to create direct associations between multiple Z-Wave devices. In order for it to create the association, the source device handler needs to have support for this tool added to it. Some examples of handlers that have support are the Inovelli Plug handlers, Inovelli Dimmer & Switch handlers, and the Inovelli Door/Window Sensor handler. The destination does not need anything added to it's handler, but does need to be a Z-Wave device.\n\nFor more information on how this SmartApp works click the link below."
            href(name: "hrefNotRequired",
             title: "Z-Wave Association Tool on Github",
             required: false,

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and this one

github.com

InovelliUSA/Hubitat/blob/master/Apps/z-waveat/zwave-association.src/zwave-association.groovy

/**
 *  Z-Wave Association
 *  Author: Eric Maycock (erocm123)
 *  Date: 2020-04-16
 *
 *  Copyright 2019 Eric Maycock / Inovelli
 *
 *  Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except
 *  in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at:
 *
 *      http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
 *
 *  Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software distributed under the License is distributed
 *  on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License
 *  for the specific language governing permissions and limitations under the License.
 *
 *  2020-04-16: Adding option to reset association variables. Use this if you need to remove the source device from
 *              your network (to OTA update it) and add it back to the association later.
 *
 *  2019-10-10: Changing name of switch capability to switch / dimmer / bulb

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EricM_Inovelli · May 2, 2020, 4:11pm

Yep.

Nope · May 12, 2020, 3:43am

I’ve completed an association between an inovelli dimmer switch and 4 inovelli RGBW Bulbs just fine (Groups 2 and 4).

Two questions:

When inovelli scenes are programed on the Red Series Dimmer Switch, does this Z-Wave association speed up communication or does it continue to use the hub to process the rules/code (switch->hub->bulbs)? I would assume it would be best to leave off the single up/down scenes blank so the Z-Wave association can take precedent for the purposes of improved speed.
It appears if the light is dimmed to say 30% and is turned off (single down click), then turned back on (single up click), the light will be restored to the previous state. I assume this is because the Z-Wave association is taking precedent over the settings on the dimmer device itself (setting #10, Default Z wave level set to 99).

*Using Hubitat

EricM_Inovelli · May 12, 2020, 4:23pm

@Nope To answer your questions:

The association does not speed up the scene commands. They still have to go to the hub and then to the device. You are correct that if you have group 2 associated then you probably shouldn’t assign anything to the single press scenes
The default of the bulb is for it to return to its previous state when it receives an on or off from z-wave. One thing that can be done is to only associate group 4 for rapid dimming up / down and use a scene command in place of group 2. You could set the scene command to turn on the bulbs at 2700K at 99% for example. With Hubitat it is pretty responsive if you do this.

robatista · May 27, 2020, 6:11pm

I would like to associate my remote button (Aeotec Wallmote Quad) to my red series dimmers, but when I select source device capability as a button, the tool loads no devices to be set. The only way I found to set it up was selecting source device capability as actuator, but in this case the association didn’t work. I am following Aeotec’s instruction for wallmote quad’s group association (groups 2, 4, 6, and 8 for ON/OFF and groups 3, 5, 7 and 9 to Dim UP / DOWN). @EricM_Inovelli could you please help me to find a way to make this happen? Thanks

EricM_Inovelli · May 27, 2020, 7:44pm

Hi @robatista, welcome to the community. So the tool requires some code to be added to the source driver in order for the association to work. I believe there are a couple of people that have done this in the community or perhaps you can try it yourself? There is some basic information posted here:

robatista · May 27, 2020, 8:01pm

Thank you @EricM_Inovelli. Unfortunately I have no skills to do it by myself but I will look for someone that can do it.

jeremiah · August 22, 2020, 9:42pm

I’m installing two of the Inovelli Red Series On/Off switches in a 3-way-switch configuration. I installed the Z-Wave Association Tool and got the associations working. The 3-way capability is working for now. What bugs me is the LED indicator light on the switches. When the light is controlled from the “destination” switch no feedback is sent to the “source” switch and so the LED on that switch doesn’t update appropriately. For example, if I turn the light on with the “source” switch, LEDs on both switches come on. But if I then turn the light off from the “destination” switch, the LED on the “source” switch remains on. Perhaps @EricM_Inovelli or someone else knows how to fix this? Is there a setting I’m missing? I’m still a bit of a Hubitat newbie, so I appreciate your help.

harjms · August 22, 2020, 9:56pm

Which associations did you tie together?

EricM_Inovelli · August 24, 2020, 7:18pm

We can do something to attempt to get these to sync up. I usually just disable the LED on the “source” switch so that it is always off, but there is something we can try. First, you need to make sure that parameter 12 is set to 11 on one of the switches. This is important so that z-wave commands don’t get in a loop scenario. First change line 843 from:

return [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,22,51,52]

to

return [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,22,51,52]

Then, on one of the switches (probably the source switch is best) set the Association behavior parameter to 11.

After this is complete set the associations both ways. So currently you have it set:

Group 2 & 4: Source ----> Destination

Set up more associations so that it looks like this:

Group 2 & 4: Source <----> Destination

We may also need to do this with group 3, but try it out with just group 2&4 first.

eatonjb · August 27, 2020, 9:52pm

Ok, I am baffeld here. I am not understanding or something. here is what I want to do,

I have the Fan/Light switch. I have the light switch disabled, so its always on… I am assuing that is what I need to do,

I have 3 Inovolli color bulbs. I want to be able to simply turn them on and off with this, AND dim with the rockers next to it. What the heck am I supposed to do?

zavex · August 27, 2020, 11:19pm

I had similar problems, see @jtronicus response to my question, it may be helpful.

In the end I ended up bypassing the module for the light and leaving the local protection off. Then I used association group 3, and has been working great.

EricM_Inovelli · August 28, 2020, 3:01am

Another way to do it would be to associate group 4 to the bulbs for dimming up/down with the light up/down button and use the scene for the light on/off button to toggle the bulbs on/off with rule machine.

Kepesk · September 9, 2020, 6:29pm

Question - how exactly did you set up Group 3 for this? I’m trying to do the exact same thing as you but the solution is eluding me.

Thanks!

zavex · September 9, 2020, 6:57pm

This is what my setup looks like in the zwave association tool app.

Kepesk · September 9, 2020, 8:04pm

Thank you, that worked perfectly!

bmaffin13 · October 1, 2020, 4:09am

So, I’ve setup a few associations that work but I have one that won’t. It is a 3 way for my stairs. Line and load are both from the upstairs switch, through the relay. I added a few other switches to try to see if it was the source switch but it didn’t rule anything out… The office switch worked (3 feet away) but none of the other ones did. They are all about 20’ away.

I am new to this but I would think I have a pretty strong network. No switch is further than 15’ from another one.

I will be installing the Inovelli RGBW A19 bulbs when they arrive and will be disabling the relays once I swap them out. I’m sure I’ll have to reprogram things again at that time, but I’m hoping once this works properly it is just a matter of changing the destination device.

gbenrus25 · October 1, 2020, 5:31am

Ah, parameter 12 is disabled in the driver! Was wondering if I was going insane seeing that something like that existed but not finding it in the driver or in the manual. What’s funny is that I was pretty sure I had seen it in the driver in the earlier days! I guess you chose to make the driver match the manual!

EricM_Inovelli · October 1, 2020, 11:12pm

Which version of the Hubitat hub do you have? Also, looking at the destination devices, are they all Inovelli Switches or what exactly are they?

@gbenrus25 I think I did enable the association behavior parameter in our drivers a few weeks ago so you might want to update. You can use Hubitat Package Manager to get notifications when an update is available.

bmaffin13 · October 1, 2020, 11:37pm

I have a brand new c7 hub and all switches are brand new red series dimmers. I believe all updates have been done but I’m not sure where to check. Dimmers all had a date of 07/20 on them. Drivers were the latest from 2020-09-16.

I’m an electrician and they are wired as follows:
Source dimmer - 120 volt constant power, no load wire
Destination dimmer - 120 volt constant power, lights connected to load wire.

I rewired all the switches in my house (about 50) to be constant 120v with a neutral. I figured that had to be the best way. I doubt that makes a difference in this situation though.