Very excited for this. I have about 50 Zigbee bulbs throughout the house but the 2 living room light fittings use silly G9 bulbs so I’ve not managed to convert them but I’m frequently annoyed at having to stand up from the sofa to turn them off in the evening.
As far as I’m aware there’s only one other brand offering what I need which is a 2-gang, no neutral, dimmable smart switch but that one looks pretty cheap so I’ve not taken the plunge. I’m not sure if I’ve fully understood some of the posts above but it does sound like the 1 gang model will come first, maybe followed by a 2 and 3 gang. I’ve not seen a 3 gang in the UK but we have plenty of 2 gang switches (almost always with knobs if dimmers), normally in larger rooms like living areas where you might have a couple of ceiling fittings to independently control. Personally I’d want these controlled / housed in one single unit with two buttons vs having two actual wall switches (if I’ve understood correctly) - although I’d be happy for this to be slightly deeper as most of my switches are on internal hollow walls so I can just replace the backbox.
Will be eagerly watching for a release date on these!
Pumped to see a 240 Thread/Matter switch coming to market!
Question: @Eric_Inovelli - Are you anticipating that the Europa switch will be available in Australia at launch as well? Or are there technical / regulatory hurdles that may see it delayed here?
I just bought my first Matter over Thread device last week, a motion sensor (and light sensor) from Eve.
Onboarding the device to my Thread Border Router (Home Asssistant Yellow with the Thread integration, and Matter integration) was very easy. It’s a LOT easier than both Zigbee and Zwave.
A few things are slightly buggy because both Thread and Matter are a bit in the beginning of their journeys but those issues were resolved by factory resetting the device twice and re-initate it into Home Assistant.
So I’d say that further reinforces that doing the White Inoveli switches (Matter over Thread) for the EU-release is the right choice.
Everyone can easily scan a QR-code to initate the device and wait a few minutes and be up and running with the device. And the reach was better than I thought, I was worried I might get some issues but the device is very fast and very responsive. More so than Zigbee and from my experiences also more reliable than Zwave.
Hey all – I’m ready and willing to put these up for pre-order – only issue is that I haven’t locked down all the distribution details yet. I have a call with another vendor who may be able to do all the fulfillment tomorrow. It’s just taking quite a long time and the last thing I want to have happen is we’re stuck having to fulfill these ourselves as I’ve heard it’s a pain with all the VAT between the different countries and we don’t have a dedicated person to handle it all (hence the wanting to outsource it).
So, I can certainly put up pre-orders and work on the distribution piece in the meantime, I just kind of wanted to get all my ducks in a row since this is our first time.
I think it’s a double edged sword that we aren’t best to answer.
If you’re confident that whatever distribution method you use won’t effect any pricing decisions, then great.
Equally if you’re happy that timescales won’t change dramatically vs what you initially say.
If it’s a case of waiting a couple of days for you to have answers then I’d say that’s a better option.
Gives customers a bit more certainty and gives you peace of mind you haven’t offered something you’re not confident on delivering in the way you want to.
Yeah. Get everything properly organised before opening pre-orders. Yes, people are keen to get in line, but it’s also just about checking in for progress updates, no matter how small.
Would the 240V (277V) be compatible for the Australian market in terms of the size of the wall plate being compatible with the standard switch plate and the Australian Electrical Standards?
Just created an account specially to answer this. I agree with what has been said previously : if you are unsure about the delay it could cause, maybe the best option would be to wait until you have secured a distribution method.
We waited a long time for these, one week or two won’t be much of a difference but it will give you more answers and certainty.
In any case count me in for a preorder ! I am currently renovating a full apartment and can’t wait to put smart switches everywhere !
in the EU the standard voltage has been set to 230V. This is because many member States had 220 (like Italy), 230 and 240 V, so the legislator decided for the median solution.
I still think that this switch (Inovelli White Series 2-1 Smart Switch • Works With HomeKit • Matter ) is BY FAR the best overall for its design. It would be great to have it work also with 230V and -if it is technically possible- also with no neutral wire.
The problems I see with the square design are that:
A) it doesn’t allow to put only one smart switch aside the normal ones (it is too big and therefore it forces us to replace all the switches);
B) it seems that there must be a “main” switch (the bigger square) and “secondary” switches (the smaller ones) where maybe all lights that are controlled by them are instead “all of the same importance”.
C) the deisgn remembers the Soviet Union. Really. The square design (with all due respect to who have them) is really something you don’t usually see in modern European houses and neither in the older ones (from the 80s at least), but maybe in some dusty motels…
Hi, from my experience most countries in EU do use square design of switches. (Examples: Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Luxembourg, etc…) There are different designs with different ratio faceplate and button, but they are square and all fit into the square wall sockets. Although there might be some outliers in EU or older switches using switches more similar to US switches.
Where in EU are you located having non square switches.?
If you tried to replicate the US design in the EU it doesn’t work as soon as you have more than a one gang switch.
US light back boxes get larger with more switches, so can be expanded modularly.
The EU style is the same size square back box with another switch added on the front.
If Inovelli used the US design in the EU, it starts to look silly once more than one switch is on the face plate.
There are examples of it looking silly that Eric has posted earlier in the thread.
Having a single horizontal LED strip and then the switch underneath being divided into separate gangs makes far more sense.
I think it’s time for them to just finalise what they’ve sent to a manufacturer and put pre-orders up.
Else they will be designing forever trying to please everyone and never actually release anything.
I travel because of my job and I can 100% guarantee I’ve never seen a square switch neither in Italy, France or Spain. I’ve been to Berlin too (but only like 10 times) and I’ve never seen them there too.
But aside from an aesthetic argument, the functional aspects remain.
