I own 7 of the LZW36 Light/Fan switches. I love them because they are one of the few smart single gang light+fan controllers available (or were available). Unfortunately, almost all of mine have suffered from the situation where the Canopy module loses the medium fan speed setting.
I recently saw that Inovelli now sells Zigbee & Matter Canopy modules that can bind with wall switches. What would be fantastic for all of us LZW36 owners out there, would be if you created a ZWave/Red version of the Canopy module and it could bind to the existing LZW36 wall switch. The module could totally stand on its own like the other Canopy modules, but also throw the LZW36 owners a lifeline.
Another possible roadblock might be that if updated firmware would be necessary for a LZW36 to work with a new fan module (association or whatever else), that wouldn’t be possible as Inovelli no longer has a relationship with that manufacturer.
I have no idea if that concern would even be applicable, but thought it may be worth mentioning.
The best that you can hope for is to buy the Zigbee canopy module and link the LZW36’s Z-Wave switch through your HA hub du jour.
Wait, I take that back. The real best thing would be if someone could take apart a failed LZW36 canopy module and determine what component fails to stop medium speed from working. If a replacement part can be sourced and installed with a hand soldering iron, it might be an interesting side hussle for someone…
I recall during early discussion to the product that the metering functionality writes to nvram. I mentioned that this will eventually wear out the memory component (since all NVRAMs in production today have a finite number of write cycles) but I didn’t get a clear answer.
I hope that Inovelli has a better grasp on hardware these days.
Sorry, resurrecting this thread to voice support for a Zwave canopy module.
I currently have a Hunter fan that has a similar module for their wireless remote control. Would love to be able to swap it out with a module to get it on HA. I have a decent Zwave network and it’s growing. I’m not interested in Zigbee because its 2.4GHz and Thread/Matter for similar reasons. I like Zwave being where it’s at.
Is it not possible to build a single module with all 3 comm options with a selector switch for which one to use? That would solve the issue of demand not justifying manufacturing and manufacturing costs should be lower only needing a single module design vs 2 or 3.
Like the idea and I have no doubt that Inovelli has investigated this. I suspect that it is related to limited space in the device along with the approvals required for things that use ZWave. A delay on development or regulatory approval on one comms module would hold up the whole project.
While the project management generally would be consolidated to a single product instead of 3 individual ones, the overall component cost to install 2 unused radios (depending on which one customer chooses to use) would likely inflate the price to the point where they wouldn’y buy it. It has never been Inovelli’s motive to be the cheapest option, just the most functional, feature rich, & well supported one.
Jumping from a $60-$80 unit on one communication platform (Zwave, Zigbee, Thread) to all 3 in one would conservatively push the unit over the $150 threshold per switch widening the competitive gap for them in the marketplace with other manufacturers like Zooz, Shelly, Aqara, Sonoff, etc…
I love the idea from an effeciency & flexibility standpoint but alas, I don’t think we will ever see it be economical in the marketplace outside of potential super high-end specialty needs. I am not aware of any other vendors producing anything supporting these various technologies in a single unit at scale. I guess if the right large company came to them and said, “Hey let’s do this” its possible but more likely just a pleasant day dream
All that said though! I too am a BIG Z-Wave fan. I don’t understand why Zigbee (2.4GHz) has taken the lead from a technology standpoint. There was a post somewhere in the forums that pretty much alluded to the Z-Wave Alliance shooting themselves in the foot and left room for Zigbee to gain the lead. This is super unfortunate as my opinion is that Z-Wave is the superior solution The good news is that Inovelli has recently mentioned in their 2026 plans that Z-Wave is getting a higher priority and we should see more active development and if that holds true it’s great for us! Stay in touch @Switcharoo, I like your thinking and us Z-Wavers need to stick together! (High Five)
Yeah I thought about that after I posted. Alternative, swap out a comm board. One canopy module design with a swapable board under a slide off cover.
But yeah, I don’t know anything about the regulatory/certification process so maybe it’s harder than it sounds.
All my ceiling fans have independent fan and light power to the wall switches. Is there a zwave wall switch I can use to control speed like that? I don’t think a dimmer switch would work right?
Yeah, I am not expert on it either. I just know the Z-Wave Alliance is picky and it takes time to get a device certified.
As far as your ceiling fans, that I can help with and provide a couple solutions. Tell me, with you light and fan being separate are the switched in a double gang box on the wall like this?
Yes. I have a new build house by DR Horton and they install Deako. I’m working on replacing those with better (and much less expensive) smart switches. So far I’ve only put in Zooz as I wait for the Innovelli red to come out (very) soon. For all the ceiling fan capable locations, they ran a 3 conductor, so I have a white, black, and red going between the ceiling box and the wall box with two switche positions. I think the way they wired it was red for the light and black for the fan though that doesn’t matter as it’s the same neutral. I just don’t know how fan speeds are controlled with ceiling fans.
The biggest priority one is the Hunter fan I mentioned. It’s on a higher ceiling and I didn’t want to have long chains hanging down so I got their wireless remote fan. The module looks almost identical to what Innovelli has but it’s a discrete wireless signal, not a smart device. So the only way I can control speed with it is with its remote. That also means it’s all on one wall switch as the remote controls the light as well. I’d really like to either get a replacement module to get it on HA or get a wall switch that can control speed and just remove the wireless module.
The other ceiling fan is a standard pull chain type. I have the light on one Zooz switch and the fan on another and have to use the pull chain for speed.
Since you have two different wires coming to the switch box and it’s a two gang box, you can remove your module and install a fan switch and a dimmer switch for the lights. If you want both to be Z-Wave you’ll have to get a fan switch from GE/Enbrighten since I think they’re the only ones making a Z-Wave fan switch currently. Dimmers you can get the Inovelli red.
I just remembered that I have 3 of these (used GE/Enbrighten fan switches) that I replaced with Inovelli Blue (zigbee fan switches) when they came out. Happy to send them to you fairly cheaply if you’re interested.
These were the only Z-Wave Fan Controllers I have had up until recently when I tested one of Inovelli’s Blue series canopy module on another ceiling fan layout where I didn’t have enough wires.
These enbrighten controllers are very robust and have 4 settings (Off, Low, Medium, & High) and work great with Home Assistant. It displays in Home Assistant like this:
This in turn gives you all the automations, voice control etc… that you could want. I had my original 2 in place for over 5 years before one of them did fail. I was bummed but I didn’t think 24 hour (Low Speed default) speed control for 5+ years was terrible and NO issues with the other. I just replaced it with the same model and things are back up and working as expected.
One other quick note… I previously had the 500 series which does not support S2, only S0. I went ahead and just replaced with the 500 but apparently they have a 700 series, however I have had no luck locating it and the price difference i saw wasn’t worth it to me. It’s not a high security control so just stuck with the 500 series.
I really think you will be super happy and I am happy to help answer any questions you might have during install.
Unfortunately, there have never been lots of options with Speed Control for ceiling fans. But I have had these and they work great! Let me know if you have any issues.
Just wanted to pop in this thread to mention that a Red Series Canopy Module is definitely on our radar, and we are hopeful that we will be able to start that project by the end of the year.
Our long term goal is to have consistent product availability across each of our product lines, so a Red Series Fan Switch is also something we would like to do in addition to the canopy module. I do not have a firm timeline to share just yet, but these are both products we are planning on pursuing in the not so distant future.