Fan & Light Switch (Project Hurricane)

[jtronicus]

@SirDeadlystrike I dont have the exact measurements, but based on the fusion360 model in the original post, it appears to be approx 114mm x 50mm x 22mm

It should be small enough to fit in a standard fan canopy.

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[Eastlake12]

Looking to get these for a few of my rooms but i have a large living room with one switch that controls 2 fans with lights. Will there be an option to add a second unit for the fan tied to the same switch? Or is there another way to do this?

[SirDeadlystrike]

Sense the communication from Switch to the canopy module is now using 2.4Ghz will there be an option to configure the channel used so that it doesn’t interfere with existing wifi/zigbee as much?

[GTiceman]

I am so excited about this. My house only has a single switch to control either the fan or the light. I have a fan in one room that requires a remote so the switch isn’t even used because it would just kill the power entirely to my fan/smart bulbs. I would love this product for that room to replace it’s remote box with yours to give me smart wall control.

Sounds like this will do the trick. In for at least one!

[Eric_Inovelli]

@Eastlake12

Looking to get these for a few of my rooms but i have a large living room with one switch that controls 2 fans with lights. Will there be an option to add a second unit for the fan tied to the same switch? Or is there another way to do this?

Unfortunately, no these were designed to only communicate with one canopy module at a time – we actually didn’t realize this was a common setup (one switch, multiple fans) when we first designed it.

@SirDeadlystrike

Sense the communication from Switch to the canopy module is now using 2.4Ghz will there be an option to configure the channel used so that it doesn’t interfere with existing wifi/zigbee as much?

Great question – no, there isn’t a way to do this. @EricM_Inovelli may be able to explain it a bit further, but I don’t think it will have too much interference with your 2.4Ghz network.

@GTiceman – thanks for the support, it means a lot!

[EricM_Inovelli]

There is not a way to change the channel that it uses, but we haven’t had any reports of interference within our group and our beta testers.

[markruppel]

This is exactly what I’m looking for, in for one probably 2 more. Any updates on the timeline?

[b5rt]

I’m so excited about this, especially since it’s almost ceiling fan season. I figured I’d check in to see if there were any updates, and then I realized I never put my pre-order in. Doh! I just took care of it. Hopefully I’m not too deep in the queue!

[Eastlake12]

@Eric_Inovelli

Looking to get these for a few of my rooms but i have a large living room with one switch that controls 2 fans with lights. Will there be an option to add a second unit for the fan tied to the same switch? Or is there another way to do this?

Unfortunately, no these were designed to only communicate with one canopy module at a time – we actually didn’t realize this was a common setup (one switch, multiple fans) when we first designed it.

Would it not just be a software thing that I get a second canopy module that is on the same frequency as the first? Then when the switch sends a command both modules receive the same signal? I dont want to control the fans independently I just want them to both work off the one switch. Both fans will always be in the same state (on or off, high or low). Basically i just need 1 switch pared with 2 modules.

[baendres]

I am interested in project hurricane, The house we bough last year seem to have every fixture controlled in 3/4 way setups.

I saw in an earlier post someone asked the question but I never found the answer so I will bring it up again.

I have fan/light in my living room that is controlled from 4 places. I am curious if it would be possible to use 4 different wall switches to control one canopy unit.

Right now I have the Light controlled by the 4-way switches and the fan with constant power (controlled by the pull chain) It would be really awesome to have control over the Fan at the wall/via smartthings!

[Eric_Inovelli]

I have fan/light in my living room that is controlled from 4 places. I am curious if it would be possible to use 4 different wall switches to control one canopy unit.

No, unfortunately this missed the specs this time. The reason is that most of the electrical components that control the motor and light are housed in the canopy itself and the switch acts more like a remote.

So, directly wiring other switches to it will not work.

As for multiple Inovelli switches, let me dig further into this with the engineers. I’d think that in theory you would be able to connect the line/neutral wire to each switch like what’s done here and then use Z-Wave Association to send signals from those switches to the master switch that is connected to the canopy.

@EricM_Inovelli – do you think this is possible?

Would it not just be a software thing that I get a second canopy module that is on the same frequency as the first? Then when the switch sends a command both modules receive the same signal? I dont want to control the fans independently I just want them to both work off the one switch. Both fans will always be in the same state (on or off, high or low). Basically i just need 1 switch pared with 2 modules.

I’ll continue to check with the Project Manager and engineers, but it’s my understanding that one switch can only communicate with one module at this time.

I have a PM out to Project Manager and will update shortly.

[Terk]

You could always use a remote for the other switch locations it would introduce a tiny bit of lag but should be able to accomplish the same thing however there aren’t many options that sit over a switch or switch plate space yet.

[mgreenb561]

If you can re wire, can you not have one switch, 1 module, then rewire the load side of module to both fans?

[Eric_Inovelli]

Let me check - in theory that sounds like it would work. To clarify - if you connect the fan light and motor loads from Fan #2 to Fan #1, group the Neutrals together and module load (line)?

[mgreenb561]

Yeah, it’s all about theory lol To the module load… the only restriction should be amperage load.

[Dunlapjc]

Hi group,
Can’t wait for this product to become available. Quick question, any timing on black paddles, or even possibly spare paddles that I could try painting?

I’d jump at a pre-order right now, but in a gang of 3 black switches, this would stick out like a sore thumb with a white on in the middle.

Thanks,
Jonathan

[dcoffing]

Any plans for a remote control?

I know I can use a Minimote via Smartthings but I like the idea of a dedicated remote with the right pictures on it.

I hate having to explain “Button 1 turns light on and off”. “Holding button 1 dims it up and down”. “Button 2 cycles through the 4 speeds and off”.

I get it but my family wants easy pictures.

I was wondering if there was an answer to this yet?

Also, I was just confirming my understanding of the wiring of the wall switch. I see that it needs power which is fine. Is that the ONLY function of that wiring because in the little installation picture it shows that wiring going to the fan module. Can I use separate power sources for the wall switch and the fan module?

I have three ceiling fans being run from two 3-way dumb wall light switches to power them all up and the lights and the fan speeds are controlled by the pull chains of each unit. So if I get Inovelli fan/light switches and install three fan canopy modules could I :

1. do a 3-way wiring setup with these fan&light switches?

2. control two or more ceiling fans from a single Inovelli wall switch?

[dcoffing]

I found this is the middle of this huge thread so it seems 3-way is not possible BUT there is remote coming? Where can I get updated on the remote status? @Eric_Inovelli

Excellent question – so, at this time, the switch will not work with an aux or dumb switches. We originally asked for this, but we were told that this would add in a lot of costs and since the relays were in the actual module, a 3-Way solution was not possible.

However, what you could do is wait for one of our remotes to come out and then associate that remote with the physical switch so that when you pressed the button on the remote it would turn on either the fan or the light. Lutron does something similar with their Pico’s.

[datavortex]

I’m 99% sure it will have the ability to work with smart bulbs. It was listed in the PRD that we gave to them, but now we’re working through the firmware, so I’ll know more once we start creating it.

I just looked through the LZW36 manual and couldn’t figure out from the list of switch parameters how I could make this work with my smart bulbs. Did I miss something? Does it work with smart bulbs?

[Eric_Inovelli]

Hey great question and my bad for not following up on this question.

Yes, it’s hidden in the manual here:

Once the relay is disabled to the lights, you can either use associations (if bulbs are Z-Wave) or use the Central Scene Command if your hub supports it (SmartThings, Hubitat, Home Assistant, HomeSeer, etc).

Hope that helps!