Integrating Zigbee Canless Lights For Entire Home - Juno Connect

Anybody able to pair ABL-LIGHT-Z-001 / WF4C_WF6C with Z2M?

HA and Sonoff stick are giving me issues.

All are supposed to be on the latest firmware. It was a pain updating each one.

I have to pair one then physically cut the power to the light in order to pair the next. Trying to pair more than 2-3 at a time fails with Z2M.

Some pair ok the first time, others I have to try multiple times.

When I got all 6 paired then turned on the power only 1-2 worked despite Z2M showing them paired correctly.

I get an error stating network route cannot be found.

I skimmed through this entire thread. Are there newer versions released with a better Samsung chip? Is this a better Zigbee chip?

It seems these might pair better in ZHA? It seems some coordinators work better?

Acuity already makes these with Wago connectors. They should switch to lever nuts. Whoever is in talks with them should recommend this.

I’m seriously contemplating about replacing all the Wago connectors on the black wires with Wago lever nuts just to make these easier to pair.

Seems to pair fine.

Trying to use the lights tells a different story.
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2025-02-24 22:55:34z2m: Publish 'set' 'state' to '0x88571dfffe137300' failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0x88571dfffe137300/1 genOnOff.off({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"reservedBits":0,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 38904 - 1 - 162 - 6 - 11 after 10000ms)

I pulled another one out of the box and it paired to Z2M perfectly. I can’t remember if this one had the new firmware. Too bad there’s no way to check in Z2M.

I have a few more which are unused in the box and not flashed with the new firmware (unsure if maybe the factory updated these before shipping them out)

I’m going to swap this new ones with the problematic ones I have.

I’m wondering if this is a QC issue on Juno’s part. Especially since another post said these weren’t made to pair with other hubs.

Maybe something similar to how finicky Aqara devices are.

@yttrium sorry for the delayed response. My Juno devices where tricky to pair (several power cycles) and only after updating to the latest firmware via the SmartThings app. Once paired in Z2MQTT, they showed as only RGBW there and that ā€œimportedā€ into Home Assistant correctly.

I have 3 different groups - 2 of 5 and 1 of 3 lights. Each has had periods of stability and periods of absolute failure to join / rejoin the network. The group of 3 I replaced with GE Cync (matter rather than Zigbee) that seem stable but are tricky to control with Inovelli due to being on a different network. One group of 5 has stopped working a couple of times but I was able to rejoin with power cycling / resetting each device. The other group of 5 failed a few weeks ago so I set the switch to On/Off mode for a week or so and was about to remove those lights too but out of the blue they allowed pairing and came back to life. I fought with Aquity to get replacements of a completely different dumb fixture. The last I contacted Aquity tech support they said that the project to create a new model that didn’t use the Samsung chipset has been abandoned and there will be no replacement option.

@cinvie What is this Samsung chip? What chip was it supposed to replace in the current model?

I wonder what zigbee chip Acuity is using and if this is what the problem is.

Does using a SmartThings hub pair these lights with Bluetooth or zigbee?

I gave up and paired these to an Amazon echo. Paired a lot easier, was able to pair six lights at the same time.

Made a light group and there is a delay in turning the group on/off. Amazon probably sends the command individually to each light as I can see each light bulb turn off in succession.

For anyone finding this thread in the future. I would avoid this lights unless you can get them for dirt cheap.

For anyone following along, the Sonoff P does not seem to play well with these lights. Switched to SLZB-06 and 7/8 paired nicely. Swapped the remaining one with a brand new light and it paired nicely.

Juno seems to have some QC issues with these lights. I returned another set of 4 I could never get to pair even with the new firmware.

Before integrating these with Z2M and HA, pair the lights in ST and update the firmware. This is a pain since you have to update each light individually. You have to keep your phone awake during the update or it will fail.

You can pair all the lights at once with Z2M. If any fail, I would try once or twice before exchanging for a new one.

If the lights work properly they should pair easily. I realized this after I tried pairing one more than five times.

I had a set of lights not respond but did after a power cycle.

It is too bad Acuity does not seem interested in making these work perfectly outside of ST.

@supreme,
Your experience mimics mine. I had ~84 of the Acuity wafers installed, waited/worked with them for 24 months, finally got the firmware, updated each one and had a huge improvement, but I still had lights going offline regularly. A hard reboot by disabling smart bulb mode would bring them back online, but what a royal PITA.

I finally broke down and bought these directly off Alibaba.

Pro’s:
-The Zigbee Implementation seems rock solid
-They work with groups and smart bulb mode flawlessly

Con’s:
-There’s no adjustable version for aiming/wall washes
-The fit/finish does not seem as high a quality
-They don’t come with their own electrical box, making installation a challenge
-I never got confirmation up or down from Gledopto that they are IC rated, so I’ve had to install insulation space cones as a barrier/air pocket space.

-Jonathan

I have 6 which keep going offline with HA and Z2M. Flipping the light switch brings them back online.

I have no idea why they keep going offline.

Unfortunately the new ST integration with HA does not work with these devices.

@supreme,
That’s exactly the experience I had with the Juno downlights, they’d rejoin the mesh with a power cycle, but they’d still ā€œhangā€ randomly and a power cycle was the only way to bring them back. So using groups, and setting them up as smart bulbs on blue switches proved futile.

I had over 80 installed. And after 24 months waiting for the firmware to fix it, it only fixed things to an extent. Now instead of them needing to be factory reset and re-added to a mesh, it only took a power cycle to bring them back to life… -Grrrrrrr.

@Dunlapjc

I wonder how many people are using these devices

without a ST hub
with HA and ZHA/Z2M with no issues

unfortunately the ST HA integration relies on the ST web API which does not work with these lights unless you have a ST hub

If I can find a ST hub for under $20 I might purchase one and see if I can get these lights working with HA using the HA ST integration

The second gen ST hub does not go for much but has to be physically connected to the router

I feel bad for anyone who purchased these at retail.

I threw in the towel and paired these with Amazon Echo. There is no zigbee group so there is a delay when I turn my lights on/off.

There is a HACS integration so I can automate these with HA

With how many devices are out there, I wonder if the only people who like these lights are using ST.

I am surprised these are still selling at retail pricing given how horrible they are.