Issues with Associations and Hubitat

Hey there folks,

I’m struggling with associations on some new LZW30 and LZW30-SN switches that I installed. Here’s my goal:

  • When I turn on switch “Kitchen Overhead Lights” (LZW30-SN Red), I’d like to also instantly turn on “Kitchen Cabinet Lights” (LZW30 Black), and vice-versa.

I ran through the Inovelli associations tool for Hubitat ([HOW-TO] Using the Z-Wave Association Tool in Hubitat), and set it as the following:

Source Capability: “Switch/Dimmer/Bulb”
Switch: “Kitchen Overhead Lights”
Destination Capability: “Switch/Dimmer/Bulb”
Dest Switch: “Kitchen Cabinet Lights”
Group: 2
Click Next
Click Done

The logs then show that Kitchen Overhead Lights is adding Node 16 (which is the DNI for Kitchen Cabinet Lights) to group 2:

dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:37.715 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: Firmware report received: 1.20
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:36.250 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: Associations for Group 2: [16]
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:35.545 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: No Protection command class settings to update
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:35.431 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: Adding node 16 to group 2
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:35.423 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: There are no association actions to complete for group 1
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:35.380 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: configure()
dev:92 2021-04-12 01:33:35.352 info Kitchen Overhead Lights: Adding node 16 to association group 2
app:145 2021-04-12 01:33:35.281 debug Installed with settings: [overrideLabel:false, sCapability:Switch, dSwitch:[Kitchen Cabinet Lights], sSwitch:Kitchen Overhead Lights, dCapability:Switch, groupNumber:2]

However when I turn on/off Kitchen Overhead Lights, the Kitchen Cabinet Lights do not do anything. Can you help me troubleshoot why this might be? Am I missing something in the process?

Here are the details of both switches involved:

Kitchen Overhead Lights (DNI: 13)
Current States
* energy : 0.163
* firmware : 1.20
* groups : 2
* held : 1
* lastActivity : 2021 Apr 12 Mon 1:33:37 AM
* lastEvent : Tap ▼
* numberOfButtons : 8
* power : 0
* pushed : 1
* switch : off
State Variables
* parameter2value : 0
* parameter5value : 170
* parameter10value : 10
* localProtectionState : 0
* oldLabel : Kitchen Overhead Lights
* desiredAssociation2 : [16]
* parameter11value : 3600
* parameter13value : 0
* associationGroups : 2
* parameter51value : 1
* rfProtectionState : 0
* parameter7value : 5
* parameter4value : 15
* needfwUpdate : false
* lastRan : 1618148917914
* defaultG3 : []
* actualAssociation2 : [16]
* parameter1value : 0
* parameter3value : 0
* defaultG2 : []
* actualAssociation1 : [01]
* defaultG1 : [01]
* parameter6value : 2
* parameter12value : 10

Kitchen Cabinet Lights (DNI: 16)
Current States
* firmware : 1.21
* groups : 2
* lastActivity : 2021 Apr 11 Sun 2:08:47 PM
* switch : off
State Variables
* parameter2value : 0
* parameter5value : 170
* localProtectionState : 0
* oldLabel : Kitchen Cabinet Lights
* parameter13value : 0
* associationGroups : 2
* parameter51value : 1
* rfProtectionState : 0
* parameter7value : 5
* parameter4value : 15
* needfwUpdate : false
* lastRan : 1618129354415
* defaultG3 : []
* actualAssociation2 : []
* parameter1value : 0
* parameter3value : 0
* defaultG2 : []
* actualAssociation1 : [01]
* defaultG1 : [01]
* parameter6value : 2

(Disregard any date/time issues you see, my hub’s time is certainly not correct at the moment).

Thanks!

What do you see in the logs when you turn on/off the Kitchen Overhead Lights?

As an alternate approach if you’re interested, I haven’t messed with zwave association because I use Hubitats Groups function. You could take both the Kitchen Overhead Lights and Cabinet Lights and put them together in a group called “Kitchen Lights” or similar and then you can trigger them on/off via a rule, or by voice/app using the group entity instead.

Using association is significantly faster than using groups or rules to achieve the same thing.

@SlothCroissant I’m not seeing anything glaring that you missed. Maybe doing the process again? Also try controlling the kitchen cabinet lights via a zwave command from the hub to make sure the node is connected properly.

@EricM_Inovelli is our Hubitat wizard

Are both switches in a common security group (i.e., both in S0, both in S2 Authenticated, both in S2 Unauthenticated, etc.) ?

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