LZW30 - Lag when turn on and off in quick succession

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#1

Hey,
I successfully added all my 6 LZW30 to my Home Assistant. It works great. What i noticed was, if i try to toggle the switch quickly in Home Assistant (line on-off-on-off), the first on is instant. I see the light turn on immediately. But the subsequent commands has a delay of around 4 or 5 sec and they all are queued, meaning they all execute, but all the commands expect the first one has a delay.

I monitored the OZW_Log.txt and found this is is where the delay is happening.

2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Info, Raw: 0x98, 0x81, 0x72, 0xf6, 0xb3, 0xf7, 0xe4, 0x7b, 0x9a, 0xfc, 0xe2, 0xb1, 0xdf, 0x11, 0x2b, 0x27, 0x31, 0xef, 0x7c, 0xa9, 0x96, 0x3b, 0xa5, 0xad, 0xf1, 0x06, 0x80, 0x4c, 0x16, 0x12, 0xee
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Detail, Node015, Decrypted Packet: 0x00, 0x32, 0x02, 0x21, 0x34, 0x00, 0x00, 0x01, 0x64, 0x00, 0x00
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Detail,
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Info, Node015, Response RTT 3797 Average Response RTT 2420
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Detail, Node015, Refreshed Value: old value=false, new value=false, type=bool
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Detail, Node015, Changes to this value are not verified
2019-10-09 16:33:48.081 Info, Node015, Received Meter report from node 15: Power=35.6W
2019-10-09 16:33:48.082 Detail, Node015, Refreshed Value: old value=24.7, new value=35.6, type=decimal
2019-10-09 16:33:48.082 Detail, Node015, Changes to this value are not verified
2019-10-09 16:33:48.082 Detail, Node015, Notification: ValueChanged
2019-10-09 16:33:48.083 Detail, Node015, Notification: ValueChanged
2019-10-09 16:33:54.284 Error, Node015, ERROR: Dropping command, expected response not received after 1 attempt(s)
2019-10-09 16:33:54.284 Detail, Node015, Removing current message
2019-10-09 16:33:54.284 Detail, Node015, Notification: Notification - TimeOut
2019-10-09 16:33:54.286 Detail,
2019-10-09 16:33:54.286 Info, Node015, Processing (Send) Nonce Request message (Callback ID=0xe0, Expected Reply=0x13)
2019-10-09 16:33:54.286 Info, Node015, Sending (Send) message (Callback ID=0xe0, Expected Reply=0x13) - Nonce_Get(SwitchBinaryCmd_Set) - 0x01, 0x09, 0x00, 0x13, 0x0f, 0x02, 0x98, 0x40, 0x05, 0x02:

Notice the Timeout in the logs. Looks like HA send the request and waiting for a response from the switch and eventually timeout out.

Is this expected?

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#2

Tagging @EricM_Inovelli - maybe he can understand the logs. It’s a foreign language to me!

Edit: Just talked to Eric and there seems to be a lot of lag when S0 is used in Home Assistant – we aren’t sure why, but it’s just something we noticed. HA does have the option to include with or without security – could you try including one without security to see what happens?

#3

@praveen12bnitt This is something that I have also noticed with HA, but only when I do a secure inclusion. There seems to be a lot of overhead with S0 security and HA. The other hubs I have tried seem to not to do this (like SmartThings, Hubitat, etc.). Unless you did a non-secure inclusion I think this is the issue. Either that or the switch is on the edge of network range or the routing for the switch is not optimized or has a bad node.

As a test you can try a non-secure inclusion to see if that improves the performance.

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#4

Thanks. I wanted to try to add the switch in non-secure mode, but the problem this is set at the zwave level. So for me to test it, I have to exclude all the devices, which is too much of work. So I am not comfortable to try this out.

Do u know of a way to set this at a device level ?

#5

Hey so I had someone else have this issue who wrote into support and he confirmed that by including via non-secure, this problem was fixed.

I realize it’s a hassle and I don’t know how to set at a device level, but I at least wanted to let you know that @EricM_Inovelli’s hunch was correct.

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#6

Hi @praveen12bnitt, there should be a separate button to do a non-secure inclusion.

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#7

Ho. If it’s this simple, I will try our tonight

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#8

Hey @praveen12bnitt – just wanted to see if you were able to do this or not? Curious on the results if you were able to. If not, no worries – I just wanted to close the loop!

#9

I removed the node and connected it back in normal mode and I no longer see the lag. So adding in secure mode is indeed the problem.

Since it’s just a switch, it’s actually ok to add it as a normal node. Thanks for ur help on this.

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#10

Awesome, thanks for reporting back!

#11

Just in case anyone else is stumbling upon this in the future, this totally fixed the same issue for me. Glad this thread exists! Thanks @Eric_Inovelli!

Now to go delete and re-add 31 more nodes…

#12

Great to hear! Happy to help and thanks to our awesome community for helping. Funny part is I do not have Home Assistant (way above my pay-grade) but a lot of smart people such as yourself figured it out!