Any chance there will be an early black friday sale when the dimmers come on amazon.ca?
@Eric_Inovelli I am thinking I need a lot of dimmers/switches for my house. Maybe 30-50 - need to confirm count. Any deals beyond Black Friday.
Make sure you donāt expect to replace all 3 in a 3 way with Inovelli dimmers.
Not something I planned to do myself but on behalf of the previous poster, Iāll bite. Why?
The Inovelli will work with auxiliary or existing dumb switches in the 3-way. Only reason I could see to do more than one on a circuit would be if you wanted the scene control at each location, but is it necessary? Could the āsmartā switches fight each other?
You can use multiple switches, but in most cases, itās not cost effective. However, if you want scene control, consistent paddle behavior, or LED notifications because the main switch isnāt in the preferred location (something Iām running into now), itās worth considering.
@Eric_Inovelli - Correct me if Iām wrong (hopefully I am). With the dimmers you could get a 3 way to work. I donāt know if either of the Erics have tried yet. Eric did post a way to wire it with the configuration settings to disable one thing and enable switch association. However, I donāt think it will work for the on/off unless you have a neutral in the box. The on/off needs a neutral no matter what. Also, I want to add if the 3 way does work, I donāt know if itāll work for the 4 or 5 way setups. The Inovelli switch doesnāt support the 4 way inputs required like a 4 way switch. Granted there are some smart people out there, so maybe thereās something to make it work.
The route I am going is the Master switch is an Inovelli and I plan to add Aux switches for the slave switches. The reason Iām going this route is 1) similar paddle switch feel (momentary style), 2) not a bunch of re-wiring (connect a neutral and traveler; wire nut load from master switch to light), 3) cheaper (barely), 4) when I sell the house and the next home owner opens up the box, there isnāt a non-typical wire setup and potential shock hazard, 5) I believe some aux switches support multi-tap, so some functions can still be triggered, 6) can support 4 and 5 way configurations.
(in before Eric to say that the LED dim level will not synchronize between dimmers with the current firmware).
Sounds like it is mostly that it would be a bit of a waste (and not cost effective) because you have dimmer capable of adjusting power that will never use that function.
The ideal solution is a lower cost Inovelli remote ādimmerā that only has the Z-wave functionality and not any wasted power dimming hardware inside.
I think you may have an incorrect assumption here. Aux switches arenāt what supports multi-tapā¦itās the master switch that needs to support it from the Aux. The Aux merely send a signal to the master and then it needs to act on that.
I note this as Iād asked in another thread about scene support from Aux switches with the new dimmers. It does sound like there is the possibility to add this via a firmware update.
I do agree though, that Aux switches seem to be the best option when doing 3/4-way setups.
@feens - I definitely understood that. The āpotentialā is there; Homeseer Companion Switches āSupports Multi-Tap event triggers of the connected load switch or dimmer.ā I remember seeing your request, and hopefully Inovelli can have the engineers integrate āsensingā required from the momentary switch. If they get it to work, I would be ahead of the game. My luck, Inovelli will reserve it for the 700 series chip for V2 switches :-.
No, youāre not wrong ā right as usual brotha!
You can technically do this, but youād need a neutral wire for sure in each of the boxes as there would be no power from the load as youād technically be disconnecting from the load in the way the schematic is setup.
And as @LongDono mentioned, the LED bars wouldnāt sync, so honestly, the user experience wouldnāt be that great outside of the double/triple tap and notification capability.
All great reasons.
Yeah for sure ā we definitely are working on this. Problem is that we canāt seem to get it slim enough right now, so we had to put it on hold until the manufacturer works through it.
Yeah, we need to analyze this a bit more ā Iāll add it to the list of upgrades to the Gen 2ās, then likely make the decision to just add it to Gen 3ās simply due to that last sentence lol. Kidding, it would be nice to get it in there ā only issue I foresee is that weāve essentially maxed out the chip space on the 500 Series. But, we could always see how much optimizing we can do with the code.
Either way, weāll definitely explore this option as it would be a game-changer and I didnāt know you could do this with HomeSeers when we were testing it out.
Iāve been really busy at work which has delayed my response. I have ~60 light switches in my house of which ~10-15 are in a 3/4 way setup, ~25 should be dimmable and 20 are switched across 4 floors. This includes outside lights as well, which are switchable from inside the house. I did this count in my head and will need to verify the counts. The problem I run into is everyone forgets to turn off the lights.
With people in and out of the house all the time this becomes a nightmare. I canāt count how many times the kids donāt turn off the lights in the basement and I realize it as I am going to bed, which requires me to walk down and then up 2 flights of stairs to go to bed. Normally Iād have them do it but I wonāt wake them to do it.
I could likely cut back somewhere but long term this is what I need. Could you imagine the cost of I went with Lutron.
Glad you saw that
Product is live on Amazon.Com Website for the US Folks who didnt pre-order:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S1BMMGH/ref=twister_B07XMF1HBN?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Go Get Em!
I just got two red series. Every time I configure minimum dim level it worked for a while then then it start lighting multiple colors then stopped working.
I also I want to configure the device to be non dimmable, non neutral. trying to set the device to min dim level to 45% it it keeps on lighting rainbows. The light buld is 30 watt like this one https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric-120-Watt-Equivalent-Cool-White-Circline-T9-CFL-Light-Bulb-FC30-CW/301140976
The description in that link says itās āNon-dimmableā.
yes, i just want it to be able to turn on / off with this switch.
Hey @bphan - totally understand what you want to do. Unfortunately, even if you want to mimic an on/off light, the physical bulb still has to be dimmable.
In other words, you cannot put a Non-Dimmable bulb on a dimmer switch.
This is likely why youāre experiencing the crazy flashing
Thanks for the clarification Eric.