VZW32-SN area definition

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I just started to set these up and I’m trying to figure out how to set up a sub-area.

There seem to be defined parameters for the overall room aka area 1 but I don’t see a clear way to define other areas.

Is there an undocumented way to do so? I’d like to start tinkering with this…

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This is the documentation available: Blue Series mmWave Presence Dimmer Switch • Advanced mmWave Configuration | Inovelli Help Center

@ccutrer and I have gotten this working in Z2M and it should be coming out in the next Z2M release. I don’t believe anyone has worked on implementing it in any other hub so far.

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I notice that is the zigbee version - same steps for z wave?

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Sorry, I misread VZW32-SN as VZM32-SN (the W/M flip is common mistake :slight_smile: ).

I’ve not played with the Z-Wave ones yet and I don’t know if a similar document exists with advanced configuration instructions for them. We’ll have to ask @EricM_Inovelli!

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No worries.

I haven’t found documentation for it, but in zwavejs there are parameters for presence in 4 different areas - I just don’t see a way to define those areas.

At the very least I hope these might be future enhancements.

Out of curiosity, how well does it work with the zigbee switches so far?

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Extremely well. I have it configured in a few different switches:

  • Two different zones tracked by two different switches covering different angles in my kitchen. Home Assistant groups to combine the values from both switches. One zone covers the main kitchen area, one zone covers the sink to activate the light right above it.
  • One of those same switches has a third zone tracking part of the hallway.
  • In the bathrooms, I’ve put a stay area around the toilet since there’s generally less motion when that is being utilized and then have a normal detection zone covering the whole bathroom.
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That’s awesome.

One more question.

Do you use smart bulb mode at all and if so do you have any of these switches configured with zigbee bindings?

I only recently realized that is a thing. Since z wave bulbs are pretty much non existant, it means smart bulb mode has to be handled through home assistant and I’m finding it close to impossible to get the press and hold dimming functionality to work. But maybe I’m doing it wrong.

Im starting to feel like I made a mistake going with zwave…

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I use smart bulb mode and hue bulbs in my bathrooms. They are In a Zigbee group along with the switch. The switch is then bound to the group for local commands. It works seamlessly, you wouldn’t know the bulbs were not being directly dimmed by the switch.

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Thanks.

I’m going to stop saying one more question because clearly more keep popping into my head lol.

Your setup sounds pretty close to what I was aiming for. I might have to rethink it all and see if I can exchange the switches I got for Zigbee ones…

In the little research I’ve done so far, it sounds like bindings can be hit or miss depending on implementation, so I’m curious what works well without breaking the bank (too much) I’m interested in at least color temperature adjustable bulbs because I like to have automations that shift blue → warm light throughout the day and have use cases for rgb in some rooms.

Are your hue bulbs rgb? Have you used other (less expensive) brands of rgb or at least temperature adjustable lights with bindings?

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That’s a question for [email protected]. They may be able to help.

I’ve not seen anyone having issues with Z2M + Hue + Inovelli (at least no issues that couldn’t be fixed). There should be a bunch of threads here where people discuss using Adaptive Lighting + Hue and bound to Inovelli switches with the best tips and tricks to make them work. Adaptive Lighting gives you smooth adjustments to brightness are color temp throughout the day.

I’ve seen a lot of threads where people are unhappy with binding when not using Hue bulbs. I don’t remember the list of brands, but a lot of non-Hue bulbs don’t implement full support for it.

Mine are not RGB but are warm white adjustable. I’m very picky about lighting though so I keep them locked at 4000k. I do use Adaptive Lighting to adjust brightness in certain places at different times and it works fine with binding.

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Hi,
I can confirm/add a +1 to what Rohan is saying.

I am waiting for Thursday for the delivery of my mm-wave switches, but I can report I’ve had great success with Zigbee Groups and binding Inovelli 2-1 Zigbee dimmer switches in smart bulb mode with LED bulbs (Home Assistant, and Z2MQTT for my meshes (also good success with ZHA and bindings, but prefer Z2MQTT and it seems a little more reliable, supported, and visual when it comes to binding)).

I use over 80 Gledopto GL-D-015P 4” Zigbee Wafers, a few Hue bulbs, etc. -all in smart bulb mode. All working in Zigbee Groups and have 46 Inovelli Switches in groups and bindings for 3-way faux switching. The wafers are all RGB+WW+CW. I don’t care about or use the RGB function, but I do vary the color temperature. All have worked very reliably for >1 year now.

I did start out with Juno Zigbee wafers, and they were a nightmare. -Great quality of light, great CRI, but horrible Zigbee Stack implementation. -Would not recommend.

Note, I did break my mesh into two separate meshes on two different channels to avoid the chance/potential for network congestion. Never had an issue, but had bandwidth / space in the 2.4GHz spectrum by blocking wifi channels, so my meshes are about 100 devices per mesh using two TubesZB POE controllers. 100% reliable, even when the hub / server is down.

-JD

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Thank you so much for all the info.

I need to replace a lot of light bulbs :sob: but it sounds like Zigbee will give me the chance at a better experience.