White Series 3-Way Dumb Switch and Smart Bulbs

My set up is white switch with 3 way dumb switch and smart bulbs (Hue). When I first installed the switch I put it into 3 way with dumb switch mode and everything worked as you would expect, both switches turned lights on and off. However, I want to be able to control the smart bulbs from the switch as well. I put the switch into smart bulb control but that seems to deactivated the dumb switch override. When in smart bulb mode if I turn the dumb switch off the smart white switch no longer works. Is there something I am missing or do I just need an Aux Switch for there dumb switch in my 3-way.

Yes, you are going to need to swap out with an Aux, as you suspected.

Ok, still better than the alternatives out there, meaning none! I looked at the wiring diagram for white series with 3 way and aux and it looked like they say to rewire the fixture, which is an issue for me since they are 4 high hats.

My other note in my dumb switch the white goes to the common screw and the back goes to the gold screw which is different that the diagram

Can you confirm that you have the wiring configuration you posted? In other words, there is only one 3-wire Romex in the dumb switch box?

The different colored wire thing that you mentioned isn’t of concern so long as it’s working correctly. It may just take a little bit more figuring out which conductor is which.

This is the current writing I used for the White Switch with the dumb 3-way. The only difference is on the dumb switch the white wire is connected to the common (black) screw. When the smart switch is set to three way mode (holding down and pressing 5 times) everything works fine. I did try swapping the white and black on the dumb switch and that created problems. If I swap out the dumb for a AUX switch will I have to redo the actual light fixtures?

With that wiring configuration, unfortunately, yes. You only have to rewire at the first fixture that receives the load, not all of them. But since they are high hats, I’m guessing that you may or may not be able to get to that one.

The problem is that when you have lights between the switches, with dumb switch wiring, the load is sent from the non-line box up to the light(s). This would be the box into which the Aux would go. But when you convert to an Inovelli, you are really wiring the Inovelli as a 2-way, and then connecting to the Aux with 2 conductors. So in this configuration, the load has to come from the Inovelli box.

The problem, obviously, is that with the Inovelli “2-way” wiring, the goes to the light from the Inovelli box. But with the current dumb switch wiring, the load is presently coming from what is to be the Aux box. To fix that, you need to rewire and the first high hat to move the load from coming from the Aux box to coming from the Inovelli box. (Just as is drawn in the diagram you posted.)

Thinking ahead, you can’t swap the Inovelli and the Aux, as there aren’t enough conductors between the Aux box and the light to make that work.

What about adding a second smart witch in the other box?

I THINK you might be able to do that if you put the Load Inovelli in the right box. You would send the hot and neutral to the right box from the left box using the red and black/white on the 3-wires. The black in the right 3-wire is the load. The left Inovelli would just have a hot and neutral connected.

You can’t bind the switch together at present, so you would have to control the non-load Inovelli with automations.

Just reading all of this as I have not been able to fix my situation yet. Little confused out everything works with the second smart switch, will it function to turn lights off and on? Could you do the same with the accessory or does that require rewiring at the light?

I moved your last post over to your thread here as it was a bit confusing in the solved post.

When you use a 2nd smart switch, the 2nd switch which is not controlling the load is wired by just providing it a hot and a neutral. It is not connected with a conductor to the other switch for communication. The only way for it to communicate with the other switch to operate it (an therefore the bulbs) is to use automations.

If you had a Blue series, you could use Zigbee binding to let the two switches talk to each other. Unfortunately, that’s not possible with the White series. Matter/thread is so new that binding isn’t a thing yet. Inovelli has designed their switch to be ready for when binding is implemented, however.

I believe I answered that. Read up four posts.

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