I’ll answer my own question 
Yes, both black and red series work well with WIZ lights. Both the b k ack and red series can disable local control to prevent cutting power, and also there’s a smart bulb mode.
I was obsessed with dimming but honestly I don’t dim as much as I thought I would. However with red series you can define different dim levels and assign to scenes and activate those levels with scenes association.
I think basic scene association is coming soon to black series. I tested the beta and it kinda works.
Bottom line these are good switches for wiz bulbs IMO.