Z-Wave 800 Series 2-1 Switch (On/Off & Dimmer) | Project Phoenix

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I’ve identified a possible firmware bug/oddity or a Hubitat driver issue. When auto-off triggers, as configured using parameter 12, no off state is sent to the hub. It took me a while to figure out why my hallway motion detect wasn’t firing, but it was because the hub thought the switch was still on when it was off. Easy enough to test by setting the parameter to something like 10 seconds to validate what comes back when the switch is turned off.

Can anyone else confirm? Is this the intended behavior? I don’t recall having this issue on my older dimmer.

Looks like there’s a minor typo on the Z-Wave JS UI association directions page:

Switch B:
Group 3 → Switch A
Group 4 → Switch B

Should be:

Switch B:
Group 3 → Switch A
Group 4 → Switch A

Group 2 needs to be associated too.

Also, that parameter 59 displaying is a current bug in zwavejsui. It will disappear in the near future. You need to show parameter 59-2 being used.

woot. ordered a couple, and am looking forward to seeing if it helps clear some range issues in the back yard.

Do you have an 800 series Zwave stick? I think without one of those, you are not going to get the long range capabilities.

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Yup. I have an HA Yellow with the ZooZ ZAC93. The outlet in the same area has no problems at all, but the ZEN76 switch (700-series 2.0) is a bit of a pile. Won’t route through the outlet or nearby repeater-equipped devices for whatever reason, and all the LZWs I have are flawless. Happy there’s stock again, and hoping to see some improved response/roundtrips.

Unfortunately, I don’t think Z-waveJS (which is what HA uses under the hood) has any support for Long Range Z-wave yet. So even with an LR stick, I don’t think HA will actually utilize the LR features yet. See 800 Series Z-Wave Controller Support Tracker · Issue #5257 · zwave-js/node-zwave-js · GitHub and ZWave Long Range Support · Issue #5253 · zwave-js/node-zwave-js · GitHub for details.

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ah, was hoping that’d all be in hardware. will see how things go. thanks for the links.

Hopefully there will be Z-waveJS support for LR soon. :crossed_fingers:

What isn’t clear to me is whether two LR z-wave devices will connect to reach other over the LR protocol absent controller support. If they will, sounds like it could still provide benefits as long as at least one of the LR devices is close to the controller and can act as a first hop over the non-LR protocol before going LR to other nodes. I don’t really know how any of this works on the backend though. Perhaps others here do.

Everything I’ve seen says LR support is only direct from controller to device.

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Arrived this morning, installed, and I’m seeing a pretty significant improvement in rtt and timeouts, so feeling like the system works. \o/

Zwave js people are trying to become certified so LR has to happen if they want that.

I’ve now noticed this behavior on two switches, but only if parameter 50 is set to 0. Once I set this parameter to a value, even if I then go back to 0, the state change is being transmitted.

Just tested this with Home Assistant and the switch reported the on/off state correctly. Didn’t touch parameter 50. So maybe it’s a Hubitat thing?

Thanks for checking. It was very odd, but I don’t care to try to replicate again because I’d have to rebuild a bunch of rules… Again :slight_smile:

Hi everyone, noob here in that these are my first Inovelli product. So far I love them, installed 1 and have it setup with HA ZwaveJS. Seems to be working alright so far although I am periodically getting a dead node which I am sure has to do with the fact that there are several walls between my HA Dongle and the switch so I am not that worried yet, hopefully with more nodes this will solve itself. Anyways, Since I am new to inovelli I am uncertain how to get the scene control setup in HA. any pointers or am I experiencing early adopter pains? I found a blueprint (Inovelli Red On/Off and Dimmer Actions - Blueprints Exchange - Home Assistant Community) that was created for the old red series though it seems to not yet be compatible based on the “no matching entities found” message in the automation setup UI.

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You want this blueprint: Z-Wave 800 Series 2-1 Switch (On/Off & Dimmer) | Project Phoenix - #505 by rohan

I pinged @Eric_Inovelli to include it with the official documentation for HA but he hasn’t had a chance yet.

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Thanks so much!

now that people are getting them installed, how is the dimming performance on these? i just finally cut all the ballasts out of the ceiing in my living room and installed these sunco LEDs:

they work just fine and flicker-free for on/off with the zooz ZEN71 i have in place at that location already, but when i tried swapping to a ZEN72 they flicker as soon as you go below 90% or so (which obviously makes the dimmer useless). i have an open ticket with zooz to see if they think the ZEN77 would help, but i’m considering grabbing one of these to see if i have the same issues. they suggest an ELV dimmer (which from my research is pretty hard if not impossible to find such a dimmer with z-wave included). i still also don’t quite understand the differences between ELV/MLV/MOSFET/TRIAC. zooz only makes TRIAC dimmers now.

am i likely to just have flickering issues with these bulbs regardless of which dimmer i use, or is it possible this new red series might work? if i can only have either smart control or dimming the z-wave control is going to win every time, but i’d like to have both ideally if i can figure out a non-expensive way to make it work.

edit - following up on this: there’s a vendor on amazon who had stock in my area for overnight delivery…so i ordered one and am trying it out today. it’s already working far better than the ZEN72 did, although zooz did ask me to re-install that and do a firmware update - apparently they have made improvements. i’ll probably try that tomorrow.

i’m kind of impressed with this so far, though. set the minimum level to 20 and so far, so good. i had what i thought were flickers earlier until i realized it was just the shadow from the blades on my ceiling fan… (vs very obviously flickering with the ZEN72 with default firmware)