Z-Wave 800 Series 2-1 Switch (On/Off & Dimmer) | Project Phoenix

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I got 20 switches installed and for the most part they’re working great. I’m using them with HomeSeer, and at the moment I have three of them triggering events based on pushes of the favorites button. Two of those are working as expected, but one is behaving very oddly.

When I press the favorites button on that switch (I tested with both single and double-tap), the HomeSeer event isn’t triggered. For this particular switch, the light is on at the time I press the favorites button. If I turn the light off and back on again (using the switch), and then push the favorites button again, the HomeSeer event is triggered as expected.

I’ve tested this multiple times and it’s been 100% reproducible. Any ideas?

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When the favorites button isn’t triggering a scene is the hub able to pass on other commands to the switch? I’ve found (with random Z-Wave devices) they stop responding occasionally to hub commands and sending scenes until I manually power cycle using the paddle. They’re usually good for a period of days afterwards.

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Thanks for the input. I can give that a try, but this is a scene that I run daily. The hub turns this light on, and a few minutes later I want to run the scene. So the power cycling is definitely not lasting a few days. It’s also the only switch behaving this way. It’s very odd.

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How’s your mesh connectivity? With the random devices I was seeing the issue with, I was seeing that there was a lot of dropped packets to them even though the mesh appeared strong. I ran a system wide heal (which took forever) and have not noticed the issue since.

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Interesting question. I’ll have to figure out how to check that with HomeSeer. But FWIW, there are several other switches within 4-10 feet from this one. So I would think the mesh would be good, but you never know.

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I just tried this, and the switch responded just fine to an off command from HomeSeer. Hmm…

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I just finally got the one I purchased installed and working, after getting a bypass. Now I just need to figure out how to use the LED bar in HA.

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I just installed my first three of these tonight. I use Hubitat. Two of them are configured as dimmers. In the State Variables, one of the dimmers shows the dimmingMethod as Leading Edge. The other dimmer shows it as Trailing Edge. They both are using (and the state variable is properly reporting) a neutral conductor. They are both set to No Aux for parameter 22.

Anything else that affects this?

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I installed 3 of these last week, and I have a zwave 800 stick installed on Home Assistant on an extension cable to avoid interference.

One of my 3 phoenixes is dropping off of the network regularly, despite being only 15 feet from the hub (and being directly connected to it, according to the network graph).

Is anyone else seeing nodes going dead with the Phoenix?

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Try doing an Initialize then Configure All and then refresh the browser page

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Hi, I just installed my first Phoenix and everything went super smooth, but I wanted to mention that the website pages for the product still need some love. The manual still isn’t available at Knowledge Base Redirect – Inovelli - I needed it to find out which parameters controlled the LED bar brightness for ON and OFF and I had to look inside the descriptor on the Z-Wave alliance GitHub repo to do that. Also, the UL and Z-Wave certification documents are missing from the product page (worse, there’s placeholders link to the LZW31-SN product instead of the correct VZW31-SN). Other than that I have to say I’m impressed. I’m not the most handy person, but the entire installation experience was super easy and configuration in Home Assistant was a breeze. Great job team!

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Yeah, documentation is a work-in-progress. You have to know the secret handshake.

Here is the manual and the parameter list, for anyone else trying to find it:

https://github.com/InovelliUSA/Firmware/blob/main/Red-Series/Z-Wave/VZW31-SN-2-1-Switch/Parameter-Table.md

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random question: i originally installed my first switch as a dimmer, but then decided to move it to another location and use it as on/off instead. i excluded from the zwave network, used the config button to reconfigure to on/off, and then re-added…but it’s still showing in home assistant as a light rather than a switch. is there a way i can get it to show as a switch instead? or (perhaps a better question), is there any potential issue that could arise if someone clicks the light and sends it a dimmer percentage rather than just on/off?

either way, i’d rather have it show up as just an on/off switch rather than even have the potential confusion…

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It always identifies as a light.

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Home assistant told me there’s a firmware update for my switch today- neat! From 1.0.0 to 1.2… but coming here, I wasn’t able to find any notes on the firmware. Can anyone point me to what’s new, improved, different, etc? Haven’t updated myself yet since everything is working well as-is, but was pleasantly surprised to see the update show up as a notification in the front-end of home assistant.

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ok, what about the second half of my question then - is there any harm if someone ends up sending it a dimmer percentage while it’s in on/off mode?

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Anything other than off sends full power

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perfect, thanks.

edit: to satisfy my OCD, i created a template switch to track the state of the actual light. that way i can add the template switch to my dashboard rather than the dimmer switch, and it’ll always send full on / off without me having to worry about seeing a dimmer pct where it doesn’t make sense.

here’s the config code, in case anyone is interested…

switch:
  - platform: template
    switches:
      yard_light:
        friendly_name: "yard light"
        value_template: "{{ is_state('light.yard_light', 'on') }}"
        turn_on:
          service: light.turn_on
          target:
            entity_id: light.yard_light
          data:
            brightness_pct: 100
        turn_off:
          service: light.turn_off
          target:
            entity_id: light.yard_light
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Hi, I hope this is the right place for this question. I recently installed one of these and noticed that the Hubitat driver doesn’t seem to have an option to add child devices. I have many of the previous generation dimmers (LZW31-SN) and I use the LED Color child device in many Hubitat automations. I was hoping to use this VZW31-SN in the same way. Is this just a function of the drivers being new and not complete for this model? Or is there a better way I should be doing this? I realize that I can change LED Color via the parameters, but it seems much better for automation to have that child device. Thanks for any help!