Zigbee Motion Switch | Project Linus (Blue Series)

Option 1 is dead now, it’ll only the better option 2.

I wish Inovelli would make a line of modular switches/dimmers/controls.

There’s no reason why the tactile button surface that has to be mounted at the face plate needs to have the line voltage components that make the thing so bulky.

Ideally, the face module could be swapped out, whether to change color, change the number of buttons, change the etched labels, change the communications protocol, etc…

The internal module could be tucked anywhere into the box, like a Shelly or Sonoff type form factor. The internal module could be changed from 0-10v dimmer to a 40A contactor or anything in between. A 4-wire ribbon cable could connect the internal and external modules, and that could be available in a couple different lengths.

I disagree about splitting the switch face. Many boxes don’t have a lot or room in then, and if it’s a 2 gang box with 2x 3-way switches, that also happen to be on separate breakers, that is a LOT of wire in the box, and the switches need to be small enough that you can still fit them in when you fold the wire back into the box. Adding additional components to split the high from low voltage further, and making the switches modular, would make the switches thicker, and probably closer in size to the Eve Light Switch. While that doesn’t seem like a lot, I have first hand experience where just putting one of those into a box didn’t fit properly, but putting 2 Inovelli switches fit just right.

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Is this the thread for mmWave Presence Sensor Smart Switch (Radar Equipped Millimeter Wave) – Inovelli ?

If so, will these work with dimmable smart bulbs in a three way configuration?

Yep!

Yeah! You’ll need smart switches at both ends (for binding) or an Aux and this switch for it to work, but it does.

What chip is being used for mmWave?

Hmm… Just got the latest update with the right subject, but body text the same as the last one…

@Eric_Inovelli I think your spreadsheet script needs fixing…

I don’t receive updates, did I need to subscribe to it?

Are you an Indiegogo backer?

It’s weird, when I view the email in my web client it shows the correct message. However, if I view it on my Android device, I always see the same old message (the beta testing begun). I use gmail, fwiw.

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Good to know I’m not crazy I read it while I was in my car at one point yesterday thought to myself well yeah beta testing started and then got home looked at my computer and was like alright certification makes more sense.

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No I preordered on Inovelli website about 18 months ago IIRC.

A couple of questions:

Can someone outline the current timeline?
Indigogo Backer here. I’m really confused with all the delays. I get the timeline steps, I just don’t know how or what that equates to for a projected ship date.

Also, any idea how or when we communicate switchplate colors we want?

Thanks! Eager and super excited to see these make it to production.
-Joe

@Eric_Inovelli as the project head toward the finish, I think a big question for us Canadian backers are whether or not the product will be fulfilled from the States and whether or not they are considered Made In USA and thus subject to tariffs? I know you guys are working with factories overseas but are final assembly done in the States? Or are Canadian orders going to be fulfilled by a Canadian partner?

Also do we have any more info regarding Zigbee to Thread OTA capability?

Thanks :slight_smile:

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In Canada you can buy them here.

I meant for indiegogo backers, the orders were placed like 2 years ago

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I am an original Indiegogo backer. Can anyone tell me if I should expect to receive a ZigBee or a Z-Wave switch?

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Zigbee (Blue)

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I would also like to know which chip is used for mmwave.

I have read that some chips are better than others for still movements (sleeping). I would like to get these Inovelli mmwave switches in bedrooms and be able to detect someone sleeping. Are these good for this use case ?

We are using a 60 GHz chip. Specifically the LD6002B by Hi-Link.

I’ve attached the spec sheet for reference. I was trying to keep it on the downlow a bit so competitors wouldn’t figure it out, but since we’re closing in on production, it shouldn’t be a problem sharing it as they’ll find out soon enough once it’s in market.

3D presence of radar module specification.pdf (1.4 MB)

This is straight from the manufacturer, so apologies for the broken English.

In my personal experience, yes, this works when you’re sleeping. I’ve only tested it on adults, however, so I’ll have to see if one of the beta testers is willing to share as I know he had it in his kids room.

One caveat is that you may see some outdated info online for this chip. When it was first introduced to me, I did a quick search and saw some Reddit posts talking about how the range was bad and it could only be mounted on ceilings. This may have been the case when they first launched it, but they launched a firmware update a few months prior to us sourcing the chip and have also made some custom firmware for us. Hi-Link is by far one of the best mmWave manufacturers (and trust me when I say we’ve gone through most, if not all of them unfortunately) and they’re very active in improving it if needed.

Edit: I’m sure some will read through this and expect all features to be possible – I made the same assumption. The challenge is converting a lot of these features into Zigbee and Z-Wave commands as well as what the UI of your hub supports as most hubs do not have the capabilities to have the UI show where you are in the room like it shows in this picture. I can tell you I’ve been in talks with a couple of the hub manufacturers and they are actively testing the switches and want a display, but I can’t disclose that information unfortunately due to an NDA and also I don’t have a timeline. But it is for sure of interest to them.

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