Compatible Bulbs for Dimmer Switch (Gen 2)

I just swapped out the dimmer for the Jasco dimmer and the strobing effect disappeared… Not happy that i’m using Jasco dimmers, but to me this points to a inovelli issue.

The two Inovelli switches I tried are currently sitting in a box unused in favor of the Jascos. Such a shame too because I was looking forward to all the features the Inovelli switches had.

I still use them, just moved them to lightswitches that control bulbs and they work great. These specific can lights were causing the problem. I think you’ll have this issue with any brand that isn’t jasco. Jasco dimmers (that I own) are the only zwave devices that treat the voltage the same way a normal dimmer is treated.

Does anyone know if the Cree Candelabra Model # TB11-07027MDCH25-12DE12-1-12 bulbs are compatible with the dimmer? According to their official compatibility list they only recommend Lutron PD-6WCL and Lutron RRD-6NA, at least for smart switches, but given that Lutron’s up front cost is significant, I wanted to try Inovelli first since the feature set is unmatched in my opinion.

Those bulbs should work based on the documentation. I haven’t used these bulbs specifically, but I have found most other Cree bulbs to work well. @Eric_Inovelli I almost wonder if it might be worth listing Cree as a recommended bulb manufacturer?

Inovelli dimmers are leading edge (MOSFET), which is recommended for these bulbs.

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Does anyone know the max output of these switches? I have 19 bulbs over 3 chandeliers on this single switch and I did not want to overload it. I saw on the datasheet for the Cree bulbs that for the Lutron Caseta switches they only recommend 18.

  • Max Wattage: See below – maximum will vary based on bulb type and whether the heat sink tabs are removed or not
  1. Heat Sink Tabs Not Removed: 400W Incandescent, 300W LED, 150W CFL

  2. One (1) Side Heat Sink Tabs Removed: 300W Incandescent, 200W LED, 150W CFL

  3. Two (2) Sides Heat Sink Tabs Removed: 200W Incandescent, 150W LED, 100W CFL

So I contacted Cree support directly and this is what they had to say when specifically asked about other brands than what they have listed, including directly mentioning Inovelli and that they are, in the case of dimmer, using MOSFET instead of TRIAC technology.

Cree Support Email

Essentially what will be listed on the list of compatible dimmers will be our current options that we’d recommend.

Anything beyond its more so a matter of testing them out on your own if you would like too.

As for the 2nd email you sent, our bulbs tend to work best with ELV dimmers, so not sure if that will affect too much into that Inovelli system. We havent from what I’ve tested any of our bulbs with those dimmers, so that would probably be another situation to testing it out and see if it does work fine for you. Given the wide range of dimmer products out there, we sadly dont test with every one, so it could potentially work.

Using the bulbs as is wouldn’t affect your warranty. There can be many reasons as to why bulbs fail which can be hard to narrow down. I would say if you continue to use them as such and they do fail, that could be the issue which would be something to adjust at that time. But we would still honor the warranty for you, just recommend you change your setup to prevent future failures.

So Cree are not mosfet bulbs?

Switch Neutral Bypass Bulb Type Bulb Bulb Qty Working? Comments
Red Dimmer Yes No LED Bulb Sea Gull 14520S-15 Traverse Lyte 1/2/3/4/6 Yes No issues

My home builder used these light fixtures everywhere in my home. I originally had them on GE/Jasco 46203 dimmers, and when my VRF HVAC system was doing its thing, it was flicker city unless I had the dimmers at 100% output. Seriously, it was like I was in Disney’s Haunted Mansion.

The compatibility guide says that the Sea Gull 14701S-15s are a no-go, and while the 14520S-15s look similar, they seem to be working just fine and are flicker-free at less than 100%.

So far, I’ve installed LZW31-SNs on one, two, three, four, and six lamp load configurations with these fixtures, and have not run into any problems.

I did have to set parameter 5 (minimum level) to 30 to get a good dimmable range. I also prefer a dimming speed of 1 second vs the factory default of 3, which makes the dimming rate smooth to my eye. At the factory default rate of 3, you can see the the bulbs step through the dimming range as they don’t seem to have the ability to “smooth” out the transition on their own.

Once they’re left on a given level, the lights are rock solid even with the HVAC system running at full tilt.

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Generation Lighting LED Lamp LED 9.3W A19 3000K JA8 ES ENC BULB, with neutral, no bypass, min is required but switched to smart bulbs before finding the correct min

Traverse Lyte 6in Round T24 3000K 90CRI, with neutral, no bypass, min set at 39
https://generationlighting.com/Details/Traverse-Lyte-6in-Round-T24-3000K-90CRI--14540S
(side note if anyone knows of a zwave or zigbee RGBW replacement for these that would be awesome!)

I am using LZW31with 6 GE enbrighten LED’s in circadian lights setup, 97 CRI. 2 Lights are 24 inches , (SKU 34289), 1 light is 12 inch (SKU 34285) and 2 lights are 18 inches.

GE Enbrighten 24" Premium
GE Enbrighten 18" Premium

Lights have Neutral and no bypass.

I used dimmer for Circadian setup, so brightness changes during the day from 100% to 25%

These lights are amazing, just like Inovelli switch. I would highly recommend it.

  • Make/Model of the Bulb (we’ll hyperlink to the page so others can purchase)
    • GE Reveal / GE Relax
  • Are you using a Neutral or Non-Neutral setup?
    • Neutral
  • Are you using a bypass?
    • No - Same answer for 3 bulbs, 5 bulbs, and 12 bulbs
  • Did you have to set any min/max settings?
    • Yes - 42 to 87 on all setups
  • Overall, would you recommend this bulb?
    • Yes - Excellent color reproduction and good brightness range overall. I’ve been a big fan of the GE Reveal line in particular since it was launched.
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Can you tell me if these bulbs are compatible? I do see a lot of flickering, and it’s super annoying.

Inovelli Z-Wave Switch (Red Series)

Make/Model of the Bulb
Sunco - SC13W65K9012PK - 6" Recessed LED https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1FCGWD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are you using a Neutral or Non-Neutral setup?
Neutral
Are you using a bypass?
No
Did you have to set any min/max settings?
I have tried everything.
Overall, would you recommend this bulb?
Great bulb when it’s not flickering.

I am using the GE remote switch in the 3-way setups. I see flickering in both the 3-way and non 3-way applications. My zones are setup with 4 bulbs each.

Hey Ryan,

Is this the dimmer? Or switch? If dimmer, what firmware are you on?

I had issues with intermittent flicker until I upgraded to 1.45 or 1.47 (can’t remember which put the issue to rest for me)

Tim

Make/Model of the Bulb (we’ll hyperlink to the page so others can purchase)
Phillips Hue Color Bulbs
Are you using a Neutral or Non-Neutral setup?
Neutral
Are you using a bypass?
No
Did you have to set any min/max settings?
Yes - using circadian lighting during the day, so color and brightness changes throughout a day
Overall, would you recommend this bulb?
Yes - Excellent color and brightness range. I’ve been a big fan of the Phillips Hue lights and have 18 lights so far

It is a dimmer. I don’t know why firmware slipped my mind. I will update and report back. Very convoluted process compared to others. Is there a mass-update option I’m missing? I have like 10 of them.

Awesome, thanks for the support in this thread – it really means a lot and it will help so many people!

I’m in the process of updating the Knowledge Base article: https://support.inovelli.com/portal/en/kb/articles/compatible-bulbs-gen-2-dimmers

I’ve started to reformat the page to make it (hopefully) easier to navigate. I’m open to any suggestions if there’s a way to improve it.

Are these just the standard A19 bulb or do you have any other styles (ie: BR30, Candelabra, etc)? Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for sharing! Did you have to make any adjustments on the dimmer from a minimum or maximum dim level value?

You may want to try viewing that page on your phone.

Adding another bulb to the list. I suspect the other wattage and color temp for this bulb should work fine as well.

  • Make/Model of the Bulb (we’ll hyperlink to the page so others can purchase)
  • Are you using a Neutral or Non-Neutral setup?
    • Neutral
  • Are you using a bypass?
    • No
  • Did you have to set any min/max settings?
    • Min: 38
    • Max: 99
    • Note: I’ve noticed a slight inconsistency in the required min level between certain units. A minimum of 36 works on some, while 38 works reliably on all of them.
  • Overall, would you recommend this bulb?
    • Yes – this is an excellent choice for a high output recessed LED retrofit.
    • Excellent build quality, 90+ CRI and selectable color temperature
    • See here for more details

  • Make/Model of the Bulb (we’ll hyperlink to the page so others can purchase)
    • Philips 9290011555
  • Are you using a Neutral or Non-Neutral setup?
    • Neutral
  • Are you using a bypass?
    • No
  • Did you have to set any min/max settings?
    • Min: 30
    • Max: 99
  • Overall, would you recommend this bulb?
    • No – has loud audible buzzing at most levels