Scene Control from add-ons in 3-way on red series

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#1

I searched through the forums some and from everything I can find it appears scene control (double tap, triple tap, etc) is not available from the add-ons if used in a 3-way setup with a red series. That would be a great feature to have if it were possible to add via firmware! I have a specific spot I want to have scene control’s, but its an add-on location. Apologize if this has already been “officially” requested, but I only saw it mentioned in a few threads. Thought maybe adding it here would be good :slight_smile:

Love my inovelli’s (Just ordered more yesterday and can’t wait to add them into the fold!)

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#2

Thanks @mike_m for the official request :slight_smile:

We definitely have this on the list to ask the manufacturer about. We’re working on finalizing the original firmware and once that’s out of beta, we’re going to kick off the alternate firmware with them.

We’re pretty pumped!

#3

Is there a timeline for this feature? I have a few rooms for which this would be great.

#4

Not officially – the problem is that there isn’t any room on the smart switches.

@EricM_Inovelli – I can’t remember, did this make the official GitHub feature request and if so, where are we at with this?

#5

Yes, it is in the feature request list but the the engineers say that 2x, 3x, etc. are not possible to add to the aux switch because of line noise and the reading of changes on the line. They have mentioned that 1x pushed, held, and released may be possible though.

#6

Thanks for the follow-up on this. 1x and held is really all I need since this is for hue bulbs.

I currently have a complex node-red flow that syncs the dimmer level to the hue bulb for rooms with the 3 way setups. Unfortunately, the most used switch are the auxiliary ones so my regular flow based on central scene doesn’t work here.

Having 1x On/Off and held would be great to finally set the dimmer to smart bulb mode with central scene control.

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#7

Expensive solution would be to use more dimmers, but I digress :smiley:

#8

Is this something that is even doable? Can I just put two full blown LZW31-SN at each end of a three-way circuit without any problem?

#9

@mathd SURE! I have it in two different locations in my house. LED bars even stay in sync. Secondary switch requires line and neutral. Primary can be neutral or non neutral.
Primary=Load switch
Secondary=Non load switch
Setup Association Primary → Secondary with groups 3 and 4
Setup Association Secondary → Primary with groups 3 and 4
Set param 12 (Association behavior) to 11 on seconday switch

#10

I have neutral everywhere so that is not an issue. What about the traveler wire, does it need to be plugged in at all or does it get replaced by the associations of group 3 and 4?

#11

Travelers does not get connected. They switches talk directly to each other and do not route through the hub.

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#12

This is awesome! Thanks for the info @kreene1987 and @stu1811, I will definitely be going this way!

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#13

What is my current commission rate @Eric_Inovelli :smiley:

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#14

No need for commission here, it’s going to come from my pre-existing Inovelli box! :wink:

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