Config button interfering with paddle operation

Or maybe sell a “low profile button” it in the store? You already sell replacement paddles add this to the list.

I really like the low profile but I have 30+ switches and don’t want to have to do them all.

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Sorry for the delay here – just starting to get caught up with tickets, forum questions, beta testing, and filling some of the internal gaps due to the transition of a few people.

So, I definitely understand the predicament here and it seems like yes, there’s something that at least needs to be addressed via firmware to make it so the lights turn on even if both the config and paddle are hit at the same time. Off the top of my head, maybe there’s a way to disable Button 7 (config button) so that if you press it as well as the paddle, the switch knows to just turn on.

@EricM_Inovelli – is there a way to do this via a handler or something? I’m guessing not, but figured I’d ask.

In terms of hardware – I do think @GavinCampbell has the solution we’ve been discussing internally. On one hand, if we change up the design for V2, everyone who likes the config button the way it is and/or has purchased V1 switches will be upset that their V2 paddles don’t match their V1’s.

I realize this is not the best news for people who prefer the low-profile look as the paddles are ~$3 and can add up fast but as you can see in this thread (although this is a low sample compared to switches sold) some people prefer it the way it is, while others do not.

We’re leaning towards the separate paddle because we’re also considering offering a different LED bar design for dimmers. Something closer to the HomeSeer HS200+ look where it shows individual LED’s. It would be a simple change in the paddle design.

Long story short, we do have notes out to the manufacturer to help with this enhancement via firmware. From a hardware standpoint (paddles), this is something we can certainly explore offering a low-profile version if there’s enough interest.

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From a non-firmware software perspective, there really isn’t much to do other than having the scene for the config button turn the light on. It seems like the combination of pressing them both at the same time cancels out both button presses.

I like the idea of shortening it as a possible “permanent” fix. As you mentioned, we have alternative paddles on the docket to change the design (to look more like Homeseer or others). Something that the user could purchase and swap out.

A cheaper alternative would be to sell just the config button in a shorter version. Speaking of that, does anyone here have the time / ability to create a 3D printable version of the config button? It would be great to give that option to our users.

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I wonder if just making it a bit shorter would help solve most cases: not so short that it’s only good as a config button but not sticking out as far as the main paddle.

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One thing we (@EricM_Inovelli, @anon14959390 and I) talked about yesterday that we are going to run by the manufacturer is to have them create a slimmer design for just the config button and maybe just sell them in packs of 10 or something for a few bucks.

We could also see if they’d sell us alternate LED bars to mimic the HomeSeer / Lutron look.

In other words, instead of selling individual paddles for $3/piece, just sell the individual components for much less.

What do you guys think? @shaddy

More to come here.

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Yes please. Even though I’ve already modded all 23 switches in my house by sanding the config button down (I’m beyond happy with them) I would happily buy a few packs of official config button replacements if they were reasonably priced and are flush. I tried slightly raised and decided I liked the flush look

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I, nor any of my family have had this problem, yet. But I do like this idea. The pictures from customers that have already modified theirs, I like the look! Offering them separately may allow those who want a different color for this button, options. I personally wouldn’t do that. That would almost be as bad as horizontal faceplate screws. :astonished:

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Are you trying to fight me? LOL

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First off, thank you for looking into this issue. I greatly appreciate it.

I think a shorter config button is a great improvement. If someone is intending to press the config button, they already have to precisely target the smaller button. So, making it shorter and slightly harder to press sounds like a win.

I will be replacing my paddles with the ivory colored ones, so I would need to buy a pack of the shorter config buttons in ivory if the paddles come standard with the long buttons.

I love to customize, and I’m sure most people who buy Inovelli products are in the same boat. So the ability to customize the faceplate is really attractive.

LOL!

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I modified all my config buttons tonight, but I’d definitely order a few packs of them when you had the shorter ones in stock, mainly for a consistent look all around as it was tough getting them all filed down the exact amount.

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I have suggested this to @Eric_Inovelli also. I think this is the better solution ! Also adding a second config button with a lower profile is also another solution and will suggest that also.

My wife got me a 3D printer for Christmas that I’ve been playing with a lot. This morning I modeled the config button in some design software and altered it to make it shorter. The first one was about 0.1mm recessed from the baseplate. I’m trying some differing heights but was happy with how it looked as a replacement. The white filament I’ve been using is essentially a color match.
Let me know if the config button model file would be helpful for anyone.
Here is a picture of the first print that’s very slightly recessed. And the button functions normally.

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I would love to try this out. I’m wondering if I would prefer having it slightly recessed or just slightly risen. Any way you can make a file for both scenario?

I have white filament, but I wonder if it would be cool to try out some different colors (as @Ma2J mentioned) .

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I’ve been teaching myself Fusion 360 and was toying with the idea of doing exactly that. Would love to see your model.

I’d be interested in the file, that looks great.

I’m out of town through the weekend but will get the design file for the config button dispersed. It may be easiest for everyone if I put it on thingiverse (although I’ve never done that so it could create more problems than simply sending it individually!). I’ll let everyone know.
@EricM_Inovelli, @DaveL17, @Terk

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I’d be interested also in having a file to get a few 3D printed. I’m hitting the config button on accident as well and it’s only a matter of time before my wife complains about it. :astonished:

I can put it on thingiverse if you have not already

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I uploaded the files to Thingiverse and the link is below. I included the ‘flush’, 1mm, and 1.7mm height files. In addition, the file for the original config button is included if people would like to utilize that.
Let me know if you note something that could use improving and I’ll try to help out. New to 3d printing and designing so tips and suggestions are welcome.
Note: if you install one of the printed buttons and need to remove it, it will likely get some dents in it (from my experience) due to the PLA being softer. But they’re so easy to print it shouldn’t be a problem. Just an FYI.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4167375

@EricM_Inovelli, @DaveL17, @Terk, @mikehowles, @cmminear

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