Blue Switch / HA/ ZHA Unable to bind group to switch

Out of curiosity, how are you liking the group binding? Crazy fast? I’m still blown away at how well it works – just wanted to share my excitement with someone else lol.

It’s been a while. I will have to move my switch back to my dev/test server to confirm on the Z2M stuff. I run ZHA normally so I will mess with it later tonight. I know from a binding perspective the UI for Z2M only shows you one set of clusters. There is a stale issue on the frontend repo requesting this to change: Device bind screen usability suggestions · Issue #315 · nurikk/zigbee2mqtt-frontend (github.com)

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@nathanfiscus the git issue was marked closed, so I submitted a comment requesting it be re-opened. Seems like a really nice addition we should have… hopefully @koenkk will be able to sort it for us.

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Let me get back to you on that :slight_smile: I’ve got a few other issues to deal with in my network first. However, it is VERY exciting, even if I haven’t worked out all the kinks yet (kinks = cheap lights need time to decide to work. They have a habit of doing this. They always seem to start working in a day or two, lol).

@hochgebe I was also having some zigbee network issues initially, i bought this cable and ran the dongle to the middle of the house; it’s been exponentially better. hope this helps.

@Eric_Inovelli they are extremely responsive! really happy so far. excited to receive my full shipment (only have a handfull i ordered from ZWP atm)… just learning & playing with all the parameters - and wrestling this issue where the lights change white warmth when you use the dimmer. i’ll open another thread for that.

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This is sick. Bought three blue switches (already had 2 red switches). Probably going to get another 4-5 after my initial experience. And I’ve convinced a few of my friends that the blue switches are the way to go (and they bought 10 packs).

There are some bumps in the road still (such as this thread and the temperature issue) but overall fantastic.

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I’m having this problem as well. Do I still need to apply the quirk if I’m on a HA version that is showing the correct endpoints? I’ve tried with just the bulbs in the group and with the bulbs + switch in the group. I’m using 3 Philips Hue bulbs, switch is set to Dimmer + Smart Bulb mode.

Edit: Nevermind for now I guess, it’s a known issue on the 2.07 firmware.

It’s strange but I’m having a similar issue on ZHA and the latest updates in HAOS. I just added four hue lights to my living room and I can bind them each individually to the switch and everything works fine. But if I remove them and then try to bind the light group I don’t get any control. I noticed that if the switch is in smart bulb mode it does not control the lighting group however if I disable smart bulb mode it turns them on and off. Not sure if it makes a difference but the switch is set up as a dimmer in a three-way with an auxiliary switch.

edit: I just tried removing and re-pairing the switch and I no longer have LevelControl 1 any more. I just tried adding the custom quirks and still only have the LevelControl1

Are you on 2.08? That’s expected, binding should be from the endpoint 2 on the switch to endpoint 1 of the group, got updated along the way from release. Try binding the levelcontrol and onoff 2 clusters to the group and it should work.

Awesome, this seems to have done the trick. I did bind to levelcontrol 2 the other day, just to try it and it did work but I hadn’t yet done onoff 2. They seemed to be working fine, but when I woke up early this morning I had noticed that the four Hue lights were illuminated just a little bit (less than when the dimmer is set to 1). It’s not noticeable unless it’s completely dark in the room so I can’t really check it until tomorrow morning, but after binding to onoff 2 should that take care of this?

Check the forum as there was another user that had illuminated Hue lights when configured for off. There was a Hue update that fixed the illumination problem.

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@travis.mara

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This is great, thanks. Looks like the firmware update came out about a month ago. Strangely enough, I’ve been sitting on these lights for a few months now and just haven’t gotten around to setting them up. Had I done this months ago with no known fix, I would have just returned them and searched for something else.

It looks like I’m a few versions behind with these, so I may leave them connected to the hub for a while to see how they work on there. If I do, whats the best way to control them from the Blue switch in SBM? Would I just set up the scene control to control them?

Yep. SBM with scenes is your only option until you bind them to the blues.

So, I decided to switch back to having my Blue switches bound to my Hue bulbs. Everything seems to be working well, but I’ve noticed that if I turn off the Zigbee group of lights thats bound to the Blue switch, the switch stays turned on although the lights went out. Is there a way to have them sync bi-directionally?

I’m wondering this as well. I saw the mention of zhacustomquirks to get endpoint 1 to show up, and I tried that out, but still not seeing Endpoint 1 for LevelControl at all in the group.

I’ve gotten things working-ish by choosing Endpoint 2 on the group, but I’m not seeing matching levels on the switch itself, unless the dimming is done at the switch.

Am I missing something? or is there a bug? Or does it just not work this way?

I’m on the latest HomeAssistant and latest firmware for the switches (as far as what’s been presented as available, at least).

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That looks right to me, you’ll want to bind both LevelControl and OnOff Endpoint 2 to the group.

Add the switch to the group as well. Once I added that in, it all worked as expected.

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I’ll give that a try! Thanks!

I think I may be facing a similar issue. I recently installed my Inovelli Blue switch and moved all of my Hue bulbs over to ZHA with the SkyConnect Zigbee radio. The Blue switch is set to Smart Bulb mode and bound to a group containing seven BR-30 Hue bulbs (LTB002). While it’s mostly working well, I’ve noticed two weird issues:

  1. The Blue switch doesn’t reflect the state of the light group. I can successfully turn on/off the group with the switch, but if I turn on/off the light group via other means the switch still shows the old state.
  2. Two of the lights often have the wrong brightness. They’ll often be set to 60% brightness when the light group turns on (even thorugh the rest are at 100%). Other times they’ll remain on at a low brightness level when the light group turns off. This seems to happen randomly… maybe 30%-50% of the time. Strangely it’s always the same two lights, and the incorrect brightness is the exact same level.

#1 sounds like it could be due to the Endpoint 1 issue above that @travis.mara was experiencing? Both LevelControl and OnOff are set to endpoint 2 on my Blue switch, not Endpoint 1. Presumably the fix was released last fall though, wasn’t it? Or do I need to try @chack’s custom quirk solution above? (edit: I tried adding the custom quirk, but LevelControl and OnOff still aren’t showing endpoint 1.

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I tried adding the switch to the ZHA light group which fixed the on/off state, but I’ve still found instances where the brightness level isn’t aligned between the light group and switch.

As for #2, it sounds a lot like the Hue firmware issue from earlier this year. I have a different bulb model though, and the bulbs should be up-to-date since I only disconnected them from my Hue hub on Saturday. I’ve also confirmed that I don’t have anything else in Home Assistant setting the brightness on these bulbs, and the default on brightness is at 100%.

Does anyone have any advice to resolve these two issues?