Inovelli Dimmer with Inovelli bulbs not working

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#1

Hello,

I have an Inovelli Red Dimmer and 3 RGBW bulbs, using Hubitat. I have tried a button controller, the Z-wave Association tool to no avail. The button control works “sometimes” wont dim properly and sometime wont turn off. Most time on a light or 2 will go on. I tried the Z-Wave tool it doesnt work at all.

I am wondering if I might have some settings in my dimmer incorrectly set, as the guide for the z-wave tool didnt specify and settings.

For the dimmer:
21 - Neutral
22- load only
52-smart bulb
Disable Local Control - Yes

for the bulb I only have: Enable color pre-staging

Any ideas ?

#2

Did you setup associations 2, 3, and 4 from dimmer to bulbs?

#3

No just 2 and 4, what does 3 do ?

#4

Hmm I can’t remember when I set mine up (moved since then) but thought all 3 had to be associated. Another thing is make sure all bulbs and switch are at the same security level (no security).

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#5

I just checked my setup and I’m using groups 3 and 4 :man_shrugging:

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#6

I will try 3 and 4.

I see my bulbs show S0 for all three, however my dimmer shows ‘none’. Are those the same?

#7

Unfortunately no. I’d recommend excluding the bulbs and including with “none” security. S0 has a lot of excess traffic.

#8

FYI, you’ll need 2.31 on the firmware for this.

#9

I thought Hubitat and HA gave you the option to select security level. 2.31 was developed for ST.

#10

Hmmm, that might be. I’m on ST . . .

#11

I didn’t think for bulbs. I had to include mine in a lamp at a distance from the hub so it defaulted to none.

#12

Luckily I am on 2.31. I will try to exclude and include and skip the security.

  • firmwareVersion: 2.31
#13

How in the world do you set the bulb to security none. I excluded the bulb, then did an inclusion, it detected the bulb but never game me the option for security?

This doesnt seem to work:
V2.31 - 02/25/2021

Quickly turn the bulb on / off 3 times to put the bulb into NON-SECURE inclusion mode.

Also, Hubitat will not give me the option for bulbs like they do on dimmers to skip security. Looks like you are suppose to do on/off 3 time during pairing for non-secure mode, I cant get it to work, tried 20 times.

#14

@harjms is on Hubitat, so maybe try his technique?

#15

I think I am just going to return the bulbs, these just dont work very good at 3 times the price of something like Sengled bulbs. Too bad inovelli bulbs dont work with inovelli dimmers kind of a bad business model if you ask me.

#16

Because they don’t work for you doesn’t mean they don’t work for others. I have 10+ working flawlessly for years in my Home Assistant installation.

You don’t need to disable local control either.

Set switch to smart bulb mode 2 (smart bulb mode) and it keeps power on 100% of the time regardless of dimmer state. Then get the same security (none recommended), then associate 3 and 4 from dimmer to bulbs.

Understand if you are having an issue, but help will come I can assure you.

#17

Understand, however I can not get the bulb into ‘none’ security mode, looks like the firmware update (2.31) that allows you to do that is only for ST.

I have tried a million times to get the bulb into none security mode, the firmware directions say during the pair do on/off 3 times quickly, this just doesnt work for me, it pairs the bulb in S0 mode. I then have to exclude and try again. The exclude doesnt work very well as when it excludes it just says ‘Unknown Device’ and now a have a bunch of ghost nodes because the exclusion isnt very clean.

#18

Sorry, I should’ve been on top of this. Here are instructions (I know it’s for ST, but it will show you the cadence of how to do it).

I haven’t written instructions for Hubitat yet, but the video (starting at 0:22) will show you the cadence of how to get the bulb paired with no security.

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#19

Thanks so much Eric, it finally worked.

Non-Secure via HE

  1. Turn bulb off
  2. Devices - Add Device - Z-Wave - Start Z-Wave Inclusion
  3. Follow cadence - Turn bulb on then count 1 Mississippi, off 1 Mississippi, on then count 1 Mississippi, off 1 Mississippi, on
  4. rapid 2 bulb blinks, follow by another blink about 5-10 seconds later.
  5. Name and Save device
  6. Settings - Z-wave Details - Look for your new bulb, check Security Column for None. If it says S0, exclude and try again.
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#20

Eric,

To use the Z-wave association tool, what device settings do I need for the bulb and switch:

I am assuming:
For the dimmer:
21 - Neutral
22- load only
52-smart bulb
Disable Local Control - Yes

Bulb:
Enable color pre-staging

Thanks